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Chris Rees utisoft at googlemail.com
Sun Jul 26 15:09:08 BST 2009


2009/7/26 Liam Proven <lproven at gmail.com>:
> 2009/7/26 Michael <mmorse757 at gmail.com>:
>> On a some what related topic of how people view themselves and others,
>> what do Europeans call dark skinned people?
>
> I hesitate to make any kind of a general claim for anyone else, but at
> least for me & most of my peers, "black people". It seems simplest: "a
> black person", "a white person".
>
> The thing that saddens and annoys me in England - the bit of Britain
> where I was born and now once again live - is the persistent
> allegedly-jocular abuse given to the Welsh, the natives of Wales, the
> next country along to the West in Britain.
>
> The Welsh are the true "native British" - most of the "native" peoples
> of England are descended from Saxon, Viking and Norman French invaders
> and speak a language derived from these invaders' tongues. Albeit, one
> to two thousand years ago. I am myself, being a mixture of English,
> Irish and Scots.
>
> That's not a problem in and of itself; what I find deeply and
> profoundly tasteless is the regular abuse the Welsh get. They are
> derided as a race of rural idiots with an impossible language, fit
> only for fishing, farming or coal mining, who supposedly enjoy sex
> with sheep.
>
> Their language is a close descendant of that which all of England once
> spoke, displaced by many successive waves of invasion and
> colonisation. It's beautiful and lyrical with a rich history of poetry
> and song. The country is wild, rugged and lovely. They have held on to
> their language and culture for millennia in a way that the English
> have not, simply adopting the speech of their current masters: Latin
> then Norse then French.
>
> But still, an independent country with a proud people get mocked
> regularly and this is seen as perfectly acceptable. It makes me sick.
> All racism and race-hatred is bad; there is no excuse for it because
> the targets are near-neighbours and look like us.
>

Aha, thank YOU! My father is Welsh, and people really don't seem to
understand why sheep jokes at me aren't received with a laugh. It's
never been funny.

Chris


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