Sounder mailing list etiquette and future direction

charlie derr cderr at
Sat Dec 5 13:48:36 GMT 2009

Amedee Van Gasse (ub) wrote:
> That's not atheism, that's agnosticism.

So what?   Sorry, I'm not trying to be rude, but I just wanted to point 
out that an awful lot of the problem (in my view) seems to be with 
people wanting to label others (in terms of belief/non-belief/whatever). 
  I personally am not even sure what I believe in (once upon a time I 
used to tell folks who inquired that I was either an atheist or an 
agnostic, but I wasn't sure which and wasn't even sure I cared).  Today 
my goal is simply to be open-minded.  My main goal is to assure that if 
tomorrow my beliefs radically change that it won't create any sort of 
crisis in my own mind.

But even that is a distraction.  The best thing everyone can bring to 
the table (believers, Believers, non-believers and everyone else) is 
more tolerance.  Rather than disagreeing so quickly I would highly 
recommend instead trying to understand (without criticizing) how others 
view the world.  If you look carefully, you'll find that those with 
opposing opinions often have insights you haven't stumbled across 
yourself yet.  Some of them may even be quite valuable.

Again, despite the fact I'm replying directly to Amedee, I'm not really 
seeking to quarrel (it's just that this was the most recent post in the 
     be well,

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