Debian: contempt for "end user" values has to stop!"

David Gerard dgerard at
Fri Aug 21 18:21:04 BST 2009

2009/8/21 Derek Broughton <derek at>:
> David Gerard wrote:

>> (That said, there's two jobs I recently applied for *because* they
>> were running Debian. Not that Red Hat/CentOS isn't a perfectly good
>> Unix-like operating system that does pretty much anything you'd want a
>> Unix-like to do - but that they were using Debian showed they'd
>> *thought about* what OS to use, rather than just using a Red Hat
>> variant because everyone does and it's something you won't get fired
>> for.

> I suspect many Red Hat adherents would disagree with that, but I admin a
> Centos system and it's Centos for _exactly_ that reason.  And I hate it...
> I'm seriously considering moving _my_ part of that system to Ubuntu VMs.

We were using CentOS 4 which was just the thing for systems where
stability and theoretical commercial supportability that a CIO had
heard of was relevant. Most of the actual software used on them was
bespoke stuff in Java or Perl. Occasionally a pile of custom RPMs was
needed when a particularly whacky Perl module demanded it. *minor
hair-tearing* Solaris 10 with Blastwave was actually better in a lot
of respects.

- d.

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