Edgy in the news

Derek Broughton news at pointerstop.ca
Tue Oct 31 18:19:04 GMT 2006

Jonathan Jesse wrote:

>> On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 04:51:35PM +0000, Matthew East wrote:
>>> * Daniel Robitaille:
>>> > The negative stories and blogs about Edgy are
>>> > starting to pile up:
>>> As with the last release cycle, people *expect* "apt-get dist-upgrade"
>>> to work, and are losing their systems when they try. The negative
>>> implications of not supporting upgrades via apt-get are starting to hit
>>> Ubuntu really hard in terms of reputation.
>> apt-get cannot and will not handle all upgrade scenarios; there's no way
>> around that.
>> How do you think we can better message the need to use the upgrade tool?
>> Perhaps dist-upgrade should warn the user that it is likely to cause
>> problems if they're using it for inter-release upgrades.
> Is apt-get dist-upgrade the recommend way to upgrade for Kubuntu then? 

Obviously it can't be (if you have to use upgrade-manager for gnome).

> Or 
> should you use adept to manage the repositories, switch them to Edgy and
> the do a Full Upgrade?
> Shouldn't we have an upgrade manager for kubuntu then?

Equally obviously, we should.  However, what does an upgrade manager
actually have to do with the desktop?  There shouldn't be   This is just a
really ugly kludge.  I've yet to see an example where dist-upgrade doesn't
work unless packages are broken - though I do realize there are situations
where dist-upgrade needs to be run more than once.  The -desktop
requirement is just another kludge. 

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