review on ian @ w98

[Martin Pitt]

Hi Cefiar!

Cefiar [2006-02-03 12:28 +1100]:
> > It's one of the biggest FAQ's, so we're trying to solve it in Dapper.
> > The goal is that the shell will tell you about sudo every time you fire
> > it up until you actually use sudo. I don't know if this covers the
> > console as well as terminal windows.
> 
> Would this be for the first user, or for all users listed in /etc/sudoers? 
> Problem with /etc/sudoers of course is that only root has permissions to read 
> it, so it's sort of a chicken/egg problem.

Right now it's for all users which are in the 'admin' group. This
covers the default setup well without needing any extra privilege.

> You could modify sudo, give it a command to do this 

This has been considered some weeks ago, but we dropped that approach
since it would introduce an information leak to sudo which is
absolutely undesirable on servers.

> > I'm trying to find out if we can get "su" to talk about sudo if the user
> > doesn't have a root password yet... but Pitti is struck down with the
> > DistroPlague at the moment, iirc., I'm sure he'll respond when he's back
> > on form.
> 
> That would also be good. Just remember here that you'd want to check that they 
> are actually using "su" to go to the root user, and not to a different user. 

They should use sudo in Ubuntu, that's what the current message tells.

> No use annoying them if they're changing to some other user. Might be useful 
> if this message is contained in a file in /etc/ (like issue) - that way it 
> could be locale specific, edited by the admin, whatever.

The current message is printed in /etc/bash.bashrc, where it can be
customized.

Martin

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