positive socio-religious engineering!
opi at cyb3r.org
Thu Jan 27 03:48:46 CST 2005
Andy Stone wrote:
> I came to Ubuntu for technical reasons
That's good, because it's a most important quality. :-)
> with how Ubuntu and the community are really going for the big one -
> trying to bring folk together in a spirit of hope and co-operation.
It is very important to try provide community with a place to grown.
People find Ubuntu thier POV, despite thier normal religion and belives.
> ridiculousness over the excellent Warty artwork. I'll explain via a
> slight digression:
It will. First, even if I think im open to others, I was quite amazed
with people response to Human artwork. That was a lerning experience,
and I guess everyone got something out of it.
> different set of rules to those of your neighbour.
Fine law, then, maybe. But it won't fly today. I'm a pagan, as you, so
my set of rules in life is quite simple. Imagine what would happend if
all voilent religions would got a law, that would let them set laws
according to religion. The River of Blood.
> Children must not wear religious clothing to schools.
To be honest, I'm all up for that. Schools are place when I go to
learn stuff. It's no place for showing how much you love Jesus, Allah or
Hekate. I'm libertarian, so I belive in thing called contract: if there
a writen rule for dress code, you have to follow it, or leave the
school. Just as simple as that.
Also, I've been working in a ground school for year and a half. If
people are alowed to dress whatever they like, poor kids are a target of
joke, because surly, they can not have new Addidas, make up or whatever.
Small kids don't think: Fu*k you all, I have mind of my own, I'm better
at math/language/art that you, and all you have is stuff that your
parents buy. They think: I'm hopeless and my place is in a dumpster.
> rarely see my views represented, and to be told other peoples beliefs as
> though they were fact (Christ died for you, etc.)
I don't find it rude. If someone belive that Jesus died for thier sins
on the cross, he state it as a *fact* from his POV. I saw lots of
signatures that Jesus was a fag/homo/nazi/communist/whatever. For
signature holders this was a fact, too.
Religions aren't based on facts. They are based on belives.
> I saw as a personal
See. Now you're trying to do, what you told us to avoid. Signature is
like a wearing cross at school. :-)
> fear-based niggles of a minority regarding the afore-mentioned artwork.
There's a rule, if they fear it, they fight with it. ;-)
> Where I live snowdrops have appeared - the first sign of
> the returning year. This seems fitting to me
Nice pagan analogy. :-)
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