distrowatch comment: "Ubuntu Breezy Badger - is it too dumbed down? "

Scott angrykeyboarder at angrykeyboarder.com
Mon Dec 26 08:30:49 GMT 2005

Jeff Waugh wrote:
> <quote who="Scott">
>> > > My point still stands. It should be part of the default installation.
>> >
>> > We understand that from your emails to the list, but we have been taking
>> > and continue to take a different approach.
>> I know. It's called the "we know what's good for users and they don't"
>> approach.
> I think you'll find it's closer to "we know what's a good start for users,
> and those who want more, know where to get it or where to look - and BOY do
> we have what they want".

I guess that's part of my problem.  I use Ubuntu because it is overall, 
the best distro for my needs.  There if far more that I like than 
dislike about it.  I mentioned previously that my former favorite 
(Fedora) is good, but bloated and YUM just annoys me (although I do like 
the multi-architecture support it has.  But that's that important to me. 
I've really not noticed much of a difference running Ubuntu i386 vs 
amd64 on my Athlon 64 3500 box.

There are also too many non-official repositories you have to go to to 
find what you need (at least in my case).

I like the simplicity of Ubuntu and the fact that you can make keep it 
simple or make it as complex as you like.   But no distro is perfect and 
my "we know what's good for users" remark was not directed toward Ubuntu 
developers but to developers in general.  It's been my experience, 
regardless of what distro I've used.   It was also rude and for that I 
apologize.  I just get frustrated...

> But it's okay for us to have goals and decisions that you disagree with,
> because we give you all the tools to re-make those decisions in your image
> should you wish to do that. 

As do a number of non-commercial disstros as well.  But Ubuntu still 
does it most things better than them. :-)

 >If you think we're doing it wrong, you can do it
> the right way and show us up... *and we'll help you do it*.

Rather than "show you up", I'd hope to contribute in the form of formal 
bugs/suggestions via launchpad/bugzilla (and I have and plan to expand 
> How's that for a deal? We *can* actually agree to disagree, and everyone
> benefits.

Works for me.

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