oneline article: "Debian Alliance on The Horizon"

John dingo at coco2.arach.net.au
Mon Aug 22 08:54:35 CDT 2005


Ed Cogburn wrote:

> 
> In my setup, I'm eye-level with the center of the monitor screen while

Sitting, eyes at bottom. Standing, eyes over top.

> sitting, so for me that is perfect.  My only problem is still managing to
> run out space for all my junk despite all the room I started with.  Go
> figure.

In my other room, I have another coffee tables on another desk. On the 
coffee table are a SunScreen atop a Sun (which will soon be running 
Solaris so I can have a decko)...

Maybe this enough of "mine is bigger than yours?" We'd make a dreadful pair.


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> 
>>Sometimes something crashes when I close it, but nowhere nears as often
>>as daily.
> 
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> 
> Well, perhaps I spoke too soon, because as soon as I updated to the last
> round of KDE updates in breezy that are happening right now, it fixed
> KControl and Krusader!  Yay!  Konq is still fragile and I don't know
> whether its Konq or maybe java1.4, but it never leaves any error messages,
> it just goes *poof*.  :)  How's this for irony:  one of the websites I
> currently can't visit with Konq is.... wait for it... ubuntulinux.org. 
> LOL!

You could try
a. Java 1.4
b. IBM's java if you're running someone else's
c. Sune's java if you're running someone else's
d. Blackdown's if it's different from Sun's.

Java, I recall, can destabilise things.


It does sound like you're having the same sorts of problems I was. I 
think mine were hardware, and since I quit sying Gigabyte mobos all is 
fine (but I've not tried a Gb of RAM again yet).



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> 
> Ugh.  Hardware that can only be supported and updated if you run Windows. 
> Blech.  I have that problem with my Plextor CDRW, whose BIOS updates only
> come in Windows and DOS flavors.

So far I've used a Liteon CD burner and a couple of LG DVD burners with 
no problems other than a harmless kernel message when using the Liteon.

> 
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> 
>>Lst I looked kdevelep use kwrite. I don't consider any of the KDE
>>editors (or gnome editors) that I've used to be ready for serious use.
>>_I_ use vim.
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> 
> 
> Umm, no, kdevelop uses kate now.  I tend to disagree on one thing, I think
> kdevelop3 is as useful as say xemacs, and a whole lot easier to use to
> boot.  Its only problem is it can get unstable based on which plugins you
> are using.  Despite those problems, kdev3 is what I use now.

kdevelop has lots of stuff I don't use and lacks something I do: the 
ability to use it without x-windows.



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> 
> Except none of these options are openly trying to build a community around
> them like Canonical is, similar to what Debian has.  And Progeny is run by
> Debian's current Project Leader, I believe, who isn't exactly happy with

??
As far as I can see Ian Murdock is running Progeny (and the componetized 
Linux project). I didn't know he's still involved with Debian.


And progeny _is_ developing a community and there are users putting back 
into it. However, as the target user base is limited in comparising with 
Ubuntu's or Red Hat/Fedors's that community is necessarily much smaller.

> Ubuntu right now.  Their Componentized Linux is an interesting idea,  but I
> really think something like that should be done at the level of Debian
> itself, not at a higher level.

Why?




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