Haha. As pointed out by jamesh: http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/08-08-2005/0004084394&EDATE= - Jeff -- EuroOSCON: October 17th-20th http://conferences.oreillynet.com/eurooscon/ If Perl is gaffer, and Python is Magic Tape, then Ruby is self-adhesive plate gold.