Snappy and Ubuntu Desktop

Alexander Sack asac at
Tue Apr 21 12:32:37 UTC 2015

On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Nick McCloud <nick at> wrote:
>> On 21 Apr 2015, at 11:49, Oliver Grawert <ogra at> wrote:
>> Am Dienstag, den 21.04.2015, 11:24 +0100 schrieb Nick McCloud:
>>> My understanding of the project is that having a full desktop environment is not a use case it is designed. If you could get a snap together that had a desktop environment in it, it would be mighty similar to an LTS release with additional controls on the update mechanism.
>> pretty much the exact opposite is the case, snappy is the future of
>> Ubuntu everywhere (even on the desktop) ... if we say Convergence we
>> actually mean that you run *exactly* the same OS on *all* devices.
>> Convergence isn't just "uuh, my app adapts to a different form
>> factor" ;)
> Fair enough but I really didn’t get that from the initial scan of the marketing blurb - I’ll re-read it!
> And on the topic of web pages - per my email from yesterday, how might I best relay corrections to the Getting started, Using snappy and Build snaps pages?

To be fair, I don't think there is a universal truth on how one would
realize a desktop stack using ubuntu core + frameworks. I can see how
making one big framework could make sense for some desktop type
stacks, while for others a more fine grained break down could make

What matters is that frameworks are not meant to replace fine grained
deb packages. How something like a desktop stack is best split up is
something that would need to be architected, prototyped and iterated

On size of framework, guideline is: if it makes sense to do something
from architecture pov, dont worry about size.

 - Alexander

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