MC Call Minutes, Mar 19th

[Scott Kitterman]

On Thursday 27 March 2008 06:43, Daniel Holbach wrote:
> Scott Kitterman schrieb:
> > On Saturday 22 March 2008 02:20:02 Richard A. Johnson wrote:
> >> On Saturday 22 March 2008, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> >> [...]
> >>
> >> | So the MC asked and was told no?  I agree there's no bulletproof
> >> | solution, but that doesn't mean that cancelling accounts has no value.
> >> | We don't give up on spam filters because they miss some stuff.
> >>
> >> Canceling an account in this case proved it wouldn't hold any value
> >> since he went ahead and created a new account anyways. At least with
> >> spam filters, they stop a great majority, revoking an account only stops
> >> a person long enough to create a new one.
> >
> > When you say ...one of these days something could be done about LP... I
> > take it you (meaning someone on the MC) asked about this and were told
> > no?
>
> Yes, I talked to Launchpad Developers about it back then and was told
> that it's a community problem and that Launchpad data surgery would not
> help to solve the problem.
>
> A bug about the ability to flag entries (comments, products, branches,
> etc.) as inappropriate was mentioned in the conversation:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/45419
>
Right, that's about post facto cleanup.  My suggestion is about prior 
restraint.  Also that bug is still about spam and would put the decision 
about changes in the hands of Launchpad developers who are not Ubuntu people.  
I think it's rather orthogonal to the problem at hand.

When the original problem came up, as I recall, Hobbsee went to Launchpad 
people and told them someone was flooding the sponsor's queue, please make it 
stop.  At the time she was told she didn't have standing to make a request to 
have an account suspended and to get Ubuntu to make a request.

Now it appears that their position is that no one has standing to make such a 
request.  They are right that fundamentally this is a community problem, but 
without tools to manage it, it's hopeless.

Scott K