MOTU Application for kirkland [Was Re: Universe Contributors application for Dustin Kirkland (kirkland)]

[Stephan Hermann]

On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 04:12:26PM +0200, Soren Hansen wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 03:19:49PM +0900, Emmet Hikory wrote:
> >> For that reason, I keep track of the packages I touch and bugs I fix,
> >> as best I can, in my wiki page: *
> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DustinKirkland
> > This page shows a total of 33 bugs fixed, of which 6 packages (ltp,
> > asterisk, bip, mythtv, ecryptfs-utils, mythtv-status) were in universe
> > at the time of the upload.  While 6 is surely better than 2, it's
> > still a small number when compared with other applicants.
> 
> I've ranted about this before, and I still fail to see the importance of
> this. For the purpose of this discussion, I think the component to which
> a package belongs is completely and utterly arbitrary. Packages get
> moved from main to universe and vice versa all the time.  At least my
> own interest in a package is not determined by whether it's in main or
> universe (multiverse is a slightly different discussion :) ). It just so
> happens that most of the packages I care about are in main. If they got
> demoted to universe, I doubt I'd automatically lose interest in them.

The problem IMHO in general is, that we have too many teams, with too many people
interested only in their parts.

MOTU is the only team, which is a multipurpose team, means dealing with any package, without
regarding the functionality, while people who are working in -server, -mozilla, -desktop, -mobile etc.

People who are only working in those specialised teams are not known to the more general focused motu people.
This is sad, but we should take care, that not all people applying for motuship are only doing their 
liked package work, they should take part in the general team of the motus and doing also the
non loved work like merge/sync, working on other packages then they know about etc.

The problem I see since a couple of months is, that the motus (the general team) goes blind, 
because someone from other teams is pushing changes to packages, and for the next cycle those people are
gone or not interested anymore...

we should avoid this situation, and people who are willing to care about ubuntu as whole, should work with the motu team
and at the same time with a more specialized team. This means, that people from the general motu
team know the applicant and this applicant will get more voices towards his work and not only from their
specialized team mates.

I know, some people are more equal then other people, but that's life...and don't be afraid to speak up and asking not
liked questions.

But yes, I agree with soren, the location of the package (universe or main or whatever) doesn't play any role.

regards,

\sh