Summary of the discussion about Marco Rodrigues

Soren Hansen soren at ubuntu.com
Fri Dec 21 09:56:22 GMT 2007


On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 07:46:25PM -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> >Agreed. The positive outcome of this entire situation is that we've
> >gotten a much clearer image of how to deal with various situations in
> >the future, and this most certainly should help the MC establish
> >itself as a respected authority in our development community.
> Personally I see it rather the opposite.  It seems to me that private
> complaints to council members (not you) get nothing but platitudes and
> requests to give it more time. 

As is the nature of private e-mails I cannot and hence will not comment
on any alleged replies to them.

> Public complaints get nothing that hasn't been tried before.

So if I - as a random community member - told you that you should think
more closely before doing X, that would weigh the same in your mind you
as if the CC had said the same to you?

> It's still not clear to me that there is a limit to what level of
> disruptive behavior is OK.

If you can define the acceptable level of disruptive behaviour in an
objectively measurable, I'd be more than happy to see it.

> All this business about working through someone has been tried before
> and he didn't stick with it.  I don't see the value in trying the same
> thing again.

Two scenarios: a) Your neighbour tells you to turn down the stereo, and
b) your landlord shows up with a notice of eviction if you don't turn
down your stereo. The matter is the same: Someone thinks you're too
loud. The message is the same: Please stop it. Yet, I see a major
difference, and I'd hope you do, too.

> From my perspective spending the time to engage the MC on this issue
> appears to have been wasted.  I doubt I'll repeat the mistake.

That's up to you, of course, but I'm not sure I understand what you'd do
instead? 

-- 
Soren Hansen
Ubuntu Server Team
http://www.ubuntu.com/
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