<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Is there some external interest in Mir that is prompting this? Do we have evidence that there are people that want to contribute but find it inconvenient to do so? If so, assuming they have a good reason, it'd make sense to support older OS versions. If not, then it doesn't make sense to create extra work for ourselves.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">If we are going by assumptions, IMHO, people that are motivated and able enough to contribute are probably on the cutting edge of technology, and may actually prefer using the latest and greatest tools/OS.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Cemil </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Christopher James Halse Rogers <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chris@cooperteam.net" target="_blank">chris@cooperteam.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Daniel van Vugt <<a href="mailto:daniel.van.vugt@canonical.com" target="_blank">daniel.van.vugt@canonical.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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We did. C++14 was completely unnecessary and the reason why you can't build Mir on our latest LTS today (without PPAs etc). The change to the code was mostly cosmetic. Yes, that did make our lives slightly easier in parts, but to what cost? If the cost is that some great developers using trusty never get involved in Mir then I think it's too high.<br>
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Yeah, I think the entirety of our disagreement lies in our estimate of this cost. I assign a negligible probability to the statement “we would have had some great contributions to Mir if only it could build on 14.04 without adding PPAs”.<br>
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I agree that it *lowers* the probability, but (a) I think the absolutely zero-extra-friction probability of contribution is on the low side, and (b) the extra friction of adding an Ubuntu-core-team-supported PPA to install gcc-5 is negligable.<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
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