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    Forwarding to the list, I have no idea.<br>
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            <td>Re: [lubuntu-devel] Lu 20.10 seems to be very slow to
              boot & log in???</td>
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            <td>Mon, 17 Aug 2020 07:57:26 -0700</td>
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            <td>Fritz Hudnut <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:este.el.paz@gmail.com"><este.el.paz@gmail.com></a></td>
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            <td>James Lockie <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bjlockie@lockie.ca"><bjlockie@lockie.ca></a></td>
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        <div>James:</div>
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        <div>Seems like running Lu apt yesterday showing some "grub"
          packages again wiped grub . . . ???  So cold booting only
          provided U-MATE . . . actually doesn't seem any faster than
          the Lu option . . . .</div>
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        <div>Since they both are 20.10  I ran what I thought is your
          suggested command . . . once after logging in and launching FF
          . . . then half an hour later after going thru emails and
          social media stuff . . . got the same errors:</div>
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        <div>"$ systemd-analyze blame<br>
          Bootup is not yet finished
          (org.freedesktop.systemd1.Manager.FinishTimestampMonotonic=0).<br>
          Please try again later.<br>
          Hint: Use 'systemctl list-jobs' to see active jobs"</div>
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        <div>When I get grub straightened out I'll try it in Lu to see
          what that provides . . . .<br>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Aug 16, 2020 at 7:05
          PM James Lockie <<a href="mailto:bjlockie@lockie.ca"
            moz-do-not-send="true">bjlockie@lockie.ca</a>> wrote:<br>
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              <div dir="auto">Blame will list all the processes so you
                can see what is slow. </div>
              <div dir="auto">I had a problem with alsa timing out on
                something. </div>
              <div dir="auto">I forget the fix (it might have gone
                away). </div>
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                        href="mailto:este.el.paz@gmail.com"
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                      <div dir="ltr">Alrighty . . . well I'll try to run
                        that command when I get back to my Lu install .
                        . . .</div>
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                        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Aug
                          16, 2020 at 5:30 PM James Lockie <<a
                            href="mailto:bjlockie@lockie.ca"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">bjlockie@lockie.ca</a>>
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                              <div dir="auto">That blame command will
                                print the times for the boot. </div>
                              <div dir="auto">Maybe try the auto login. </div>
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                                      Fritz Hudnut <<a
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                                        <div>James:</div>
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                                        <div>OK, well thanks for the
                                          reply . . . after I posted
                                          that email I ran "apt" and
                                          there were roughly "300"
                                          packages to update, but I
                                          don't know if "systemd" was in
                                          there or not . . . .</div>
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                                        <div>Anything to "monitor" in
                                          this regard??  It is much
                                          slower to get to log in window
                                          and then really slow getting
                                          from there into GUI . . . .</div>
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                                          class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Aug
                                          16, 2020 at 4:13 PM James
                                          Lockie <<a
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                                              <div dir="auto">systemd-analyze
                                                blame</div>
                                              <div dir="auto">I think. </div>
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                                                      0px">On August 16,
                                                      2020 18:49:10
                                                      Fritz Hudnut <<a
href="mailto:este.el.paz@gmail.com" target="_blank"
                                                        moz-do-not-send="true">este.el.paz@gmail.com</a>>
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                                                        <div>Posting
                                                          here in case
                                                          the helm is
                                                          manned . . .
                                                          in comparison
                                                          to my other
                                                          linux installs
                                                          and more
                                                          basically in
                                                          comparison to
                                                          my U-MATE
                                                          20.10 install
                                                          . . . the Lu
                                                          boot time is
                                                          "slower" to
                                                          run through
                                                          what must be
                                                          the "dmesg"
                                                          data . . .
                                                          which it says
                                                          is "system
                                                          check" . . .
                                                          and possibly
                                                          could be
                                                          "cancelled" .
                                                          . . might save
                                                          some time . .
                                                          . .</div>
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                                                        <div>But, more
                                                          of a problem
                                                          is when the
                                                          log in window
                                                          shows and I
                                                          type my
                                                          password and
                                                          hit return . .
                                                          . nothing
                                                          happens . . .
                                                          and I wind up
                                                          hitting return
                                                          key several
                                                          times before
                                                          the system
                                                          decides to
                                                          load the
                                                          desktop????</div>
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                                                        <div>It's
                                                          happened
                                                          enough times
                                                          that I am now
                                                          taking time
                                                          too report the
                                                          problem here.</div>
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                                                        <div>F<br>
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