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<p>Hi Ian,</p>
<p>I think you have it right. And, in fact, your work-around I
vaguely recall using probably nearly a year ago, so maybe from
MX17 and not 17.1 . And, in fact, I tried it in the past week ot
two unsuccessfully, but didn't mention it amongst all the
workarounds I did try with like outcomes. I thought it would be
less guff to throw at the Lubuntu community whom I would merely
trouble to hear if anyone had encountered a similar problem with
GIMP 2.8.x. <br>
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<p>Now I have a cascade of dichotomies to investigate, along with
all the relevant interactions:</p>
<p> GIMP 2.8.22 vs GIMP 2.8.?? ?<br>
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<p> LO 6.0.3 vs LO 5.x.y ?</p>
<p> MX17 vs MX17.1 ?</p>
<p>(At least it's the same printer!)</p>
<p>So I'll be pragmatic rather than academic and download MX18beta1
even though I'd rather get past the beta version and see it that
cures my problem before deciding to go bughunting.</p>
<p>Fact is, I don't use GIMP often enough to be confident with it.
Usually I'm trying to isolate an image from a PDF file, often
generated as an Adobe Acrobat pic, and resize it for presentation.
Last time I succeeded was with the new letterhead a graphic
designer had designed for the charity my wife and I run, to
isolate the logo itself and resize it. Yes, I did succeed - then.
Now, this lad I'm mentoring drew up visuals for the plays he had
strategized for the kids soccer teams he and other young men are
coaching locally on behalf of the Sports Academy (??) of Portugal.
He did it all on GIMP, then asked me to print it for handouts for
the coaches' seminar. Much egg on face because of tiny print
sizes, also time budget. Should have taken perhaps 5 minutes, he
had about 30 to spare. Which wasn't enough, with the original
image refusing even LO Draw's efforts to resize it.</p>
<p>I really don't do much graphics, and I probably do do it in LO
(importing, positioning, resizing externally obtained images) . I
keep GIMP around for the rare occasion where greater abilities are
needed and I can set aside an hour or so to experiment with the
techniques needed for GIMP <i>de jour</i>. But I find it
frustrating that it is so difficult to do the simplest of creative
and editing functions in GIMP that I am seriously discouraged from
fiddling around with it in spare moments to get used to doing
things its way, at least at a very elementary level. Like:
<rant><br>
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<p> Define a point, A <br>
</p>
<p> Use it as the centre of a circle, C1<br>
</p>
<p> Define another point, B</p>
<p> Connect A and B with a straight line AB</p>
<p> Connect A and B with a freehand wiggly line A~B</p>
<p> Drag the circumference of C1 to pass through B, making
another circle C2</p>
<p> Shade the ring-like space between C1 and C2 (the torus? Is it
a <i>torus</i>? Wow! If not, then too bad, you understand what I
mean) and fill it with a selected colour<br>
</p>
<p> Select some portion of this exciting image by framing it with
some rectangle whose position and size I can easily define with
just the mouse.</p>
<p> Print selected portion without resizing it</p>
<p> Resize and reposition by dragging on the printable space.
Print it to the corresponding size.</p>
<p>- all within shall we say 8 minutes, without referencing any text
manual pages, relying only on the rather intuitive menu-headings
and entries (where GIMP currently fails massively in my
experience)...</p>
<p>If GIMP could do that - reliably, from version to version - year
in and year out, while getting more and more AutoCAD threatening
if that's what they want to do - I would play with it and graduate
close on 10 children a year from our safe home as happy, intuitive
competent-at-an-elementary-level Linux users, LO users, VLC
users, and GIMP (<b>gimp</b> maybe?) users. Living proof to the
school system that they should permit the use of open systems in
the classroom and staff offices as they are by implication obliged
to do.<br>
</p>
<p>What would it take to write an elementary UI for GIMP, with a
much-simplified/reduced menu system and reduced option-set, with
possibly an intermediate alternative, allowing eventual progress
to raw GIMP which had been hiding behind the friendly screens all
along? Select complexity level from initial menu screen? Remember,
you don't want to mess with the innards, just the UI? Hopefully?<br>
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<p>Ive been writing software for 50 years and hate getting egg on my
face because someone else's UI doesn't make sense to simple
beings.<br>
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<p></rant></p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Basil<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/12/18 13:39, Ian Bruntlett wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Basil,<br>
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<div>I hope I've understood your problem correctly...<br>
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<div>When faced with problems like this, I import the image into
LibreOffice Draw, set the page to Portrait / Landscape, resize
the image appropriately, and print it from there.</div>
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<div>To set the page to Portrait or Landscape, load LO Draw and
go Format -> Page Properties and then choose the
appropriate Portrait / Landscape radio button.<br>
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<div>The above approach is used in a charity, Contact, that I
volunteer in and works for me :) <br>
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<div>HTH,</div>
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