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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Jerry,<br>
      That is great, let me know when JerryFM comes out :D<br>
      I think C is better for a file manager, but that is just my
      opinion..<br>
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      I think experimenting with different apps is great, you find a lot
      of things you wouldn't.  I for one do not like leafpad at all for
      a text editor and always install something else (pluma, geany,
      mousepad something with syntax highlighting)  For many leafpad
      would work well as it is a simple text editor.  But I NEED syntax
      highlighting in a text editor so I install other apps.  Same for
      you and the file manager, you are accustomed to certain ordering
      of files so you require a file manager that does that to keep your
      workflow the same.<br>
      <br>
      Maybe you could e-mail us your results of testing, or even
      contribute a wiki page to the Ubuntu wiki about file managers?<br>
      <br>
      On 06/25/2016 11:26 AM, J. Van Brimmer wrote:<br>
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        <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466871208231_3675">Hi Israel,<br>
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        <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466871208231_3718">Thanks for your
          input, I really do appreciate it. You just gave me an idea,
          maybe I'll learn python, or C, and write my own file manager!</div>
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        <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466871208231_3825">Ha! That'll be
          the day!</div>
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        <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466871208231_4118">Yeah, your point
          is well taken. I don't know why I was stuck in the "default
          file manager" rut. Like has been said, there are lots of
          options in the libre software world. I'll just keep
          experimenting until I settle on the one that suits me the
          best.</div>
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        <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1466871208231_4151">Thanks all!<br>
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              <div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial" size="2"> On Saturday,
                  June 25, 2016 8:25 AM, Israel
                  <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:israeldahl@gmail.com"><israeldahl@gmail.com></a> wrote:<br>
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                <div class="y_msg_container">Hi Jerry,<br clear="none">
                  Caja is the 'old' nautilus so if you like it better by
                  all means use it!<br clear="none">
                  There are lots and lots to choose from.<br
                    clear="none">
                  Some people would rather have a 2-paned file manager
                  than one that uses <br clear="none">
                  abstractions and bookmarks.<br clear="none">
                  I, like Aere, preferr pcmanfm for numerous reasons
                  (fast, light, does <br clear="none">
                  everything I want, has features other file managers
                  don't, generally <br clear="none">
                  improves without removing features)<br clear="none">
                  I have used many file managers (nautilus, thunar, rox,
                  pcmanfm, spacefm, <br clear="none">
                  xfe, terminal file managers, etc...) and for me
                  pcmanfm works the best.  <br clear="none">
                  This is (as it has been pointed out) why GNU/Linux is
                  so great.<br clear="none">
                  You could even (if you chose) hack the code of pcmanfm
                  to sort files the <br clear="none">
                  way you want, and add configuration options etc...
                  Enjoy libre software! :D<br clear="none">
                  You are totally free to use caja instead of pcmanfm in
                  Lubuntu.<br clear="none">
                  If you need help setting it up just ask us!<br
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                    On 06/24/2016 12:11 PM, Aere Greenway wrote:<br
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                    > Jerry:<br clear="none">
                    ><br clear="none">
                    > It's okay to have different preferences.  I
                    personally like being <br clear="none">
                    > different.<br clear="none">
                    ><br clear="none">
                    > It sounds like I would like Caja better as
                    well, but it's not a big <br clear="none">
                    > enough deal for me to want to change.<br
                      clear="none">
                    ><br clear="none">
                    > Where Caja does it differently, their code
                    probably substitutes their <br clear="none">
                    > own lexical comparison routine, as certainly
                    can be done.<br clear="none">
                    ><br clear="none">
                    > With the default lexical comparison routines,
                    the hidden folders (and <br clear="none">
                    > hidden files) come first only because a period
                    (.) comes before any <br clear="none">
                    > letter or digit in the 'alphabetical order' of
                    the character set.<br clear="none">
                    ><br clear="none">
                    > In the e-mail I sent last, the table may not
                    have appeared in table <br clear="none">
                    > form without the e-mail being viewed in HTML
                    form.<br clear="none">
                    ><br clear="none">
                    > - Aere<br clear="none">
                    ><br clear="none">
                    ><br clear="none">
                    > On 06/23/2016 10:46 PM, J. Van Brimmer wrote:<br
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                    >> I think in the end, I'll just have to
                    either install a file manager <br clear="none">
                    >> that I'm comfortable with, or change
                    distributions. I was just hoping <br clear="none">
                    >> to understand the reason why PCManFM sorts
                    the way it does so that <br clear="none">
                    >> maybe I could see the benefit of it. But,
                    so far that's just not <br clear="none">
                    >> happening.<br clear="none">
                    >><br clear="none">
                    >> For instance, if I have hidden files made
                    visible, in my home <br clear="none">
                    >> directory I have .folders first, then
                    regular folders, then .files, <br clear="none">
                    >> and then regular files; that is going from
                    top to bottom.<br clear="none">
                    >><br clear="none">
                    >><br clear="none">
                    >> So, from top to bottom I see:<br
                      clear="none">
                    >><br clear="none">
                    >> hidden folders<br clear="none">
                    >> normal folders<br clear="none">
                    >> hidden files<br clear="none">
                    >> normal files<br clear="none">
                    >><br clear="none">
                    >> In Caja it's just the opposite:<br
                      clear="none">
                    >> normal folders<br clear="none">
                    >> hidden folders<br clear="none">
                    >> normal files<br clear="none">
                    >> hidden files<br clear="none">
                    >><br clear="none">
                    >> I don't know, maybe it's just me, but I
                    seem to be more comfortable <br clear="none">
                    >> with Caja'a sorting order. I'll just learn
                    to get used to it, there <br clear="none">
                    >> must be a logical benefit that I'm not
                    seeing.</div>
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                  -- <br clear="none">
                  Regards<br clear="none">
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