The asistanced call trytry trying hard for your true tutti to cops of my friends for a chance jhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhjhs regretted a very long time ago and the <div class="gmail_quote">On May 9, 2016 10:22 PM, <<a href="mailto:lubuntu-users-request@lists.ubuntu.com">lubuntu-users-request@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send Lubuntu-users mailing list submissions to <a href="mailto:lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users</a> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to <a href="mailto:lubuntu-users-request@lists.ubuntu.com">lubuntu-users-request@lists.ubuntu.com</a> You can reach the person managing the list at <a href="mailto:lubuntu-users-owner@lists.ubuntu.com">lubuntu-users-owner@lists.ubuntu.com</a> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Lubuntu-users digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: [lubuntu-devel] LXQt wiki area (Simon Quigley) 2. Re: [lubuntu-devel] LXQt wiki area (Walter Lapchynski) 3. Re: [lubuntu-devel] LXQt wiki area (Walter Lapchynski) 4. Re: [lubuntu-devel] Your thoughts (Simon Quigley) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 22:08:07 -0500 From: Simon Quigley <<a href="mailto:tsimonq2@ubuntu.com">tsimonq2@ubuntu.com</a>> To: "Phill. Whiteside" <<a href="mailto:phillwuk@gmail.com">phillwuk@gmail.com</a>> Cc: lubuntu-devel <<a href="mailto:lubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">lubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a>>, lubuntu user list <<a href="mailto:lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Subject: Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] LXQt wiki area Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:57315097.6060504@ubuntu.com">57315097.6060504@ubuntu.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Fine, but that's not how you use Doodle. :) -- Simon Quigley <a href="mailto:tsimonq2@ubuntu.com">tsimonq2@ubuntu.com</a> tsimonq2 on Freenode ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 20:01:11 -0700 From: Walter Lapchynski <<a href="mailto:wxl@ubuntu.com">wxl@ubuntu.com</a>> To: "Phill. Whiteside" <<a href="mailto:phillwuk@gmail.com">phillwuk@gmail.com</a>> Cc: lubuntu-devel <<a href="mailto:lubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">lubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a>>, lubuntu user list <<a href="mailto:lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Subject: Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] LXQt wiki area Message-ID: <CAFe_ewhLmPV-5mtWVFrWGfph+dkf0-hO0MNgp1Sgvv7V=<a href="mailto:jXvBQ@mail.gmail.com">jXvBQ@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Doodle is a polling mechanism that anyone can participate in, so got can include whomever you want with nothing more than a link. I'll set it up for you if you're unfamiliar. On May 9, 2016 7:58 PM, "Phill. Whiteside" <<a href="mailto:phillwuk@gmail.com">phillwuk@gmail.com</a>> wrote: Hi Walter, does Doodle have just under 8,000 people and similar for the facebook page (15,000) But, i follow orders.... On 10 May 2016 at 03:33, Walter Lapchynski <<a href="mailto:wxl@ubuntu.com">wxl@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: > Having it be exclusively on Facebook makes no sense. Make a Doodle poll or > something of the sort and link it to all the places. > On May 9, 2016 7:31 PM, "Phill. Whiteside" <<a href="mailto:phillwuk@gmail.com">phillwuk@gmail.com</a>> wrote: > >> 7,769 members <<a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/lubuntu.official/members/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/groups/lubuntu.official/members/</a>>(102 >> new) <<a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/lubuntu.official/#" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/groups/lubuntu.official/#</a>> >> >> just under 8,000 people.. let the vote go for 24 hours and we will accept >> it. >> >> The question: >> Hi follks, As lubutnu moves from GTK (current) to Qt (LXQt) I propose >> that we also move our wiki system to MediaWiki and have the moinmoin wiki >> for the GTK variants. >> +1 is for us setting up the new wiki area for Qt >> -1 is for us keep using moinmoin untill it gets moved to MediaWiki Is >> that fair? >> >> >> On 10 May 2016 at 03:24, Phill. Whiteside <<a href="mailto:phillwuk@gmail.com">phillwuk@gmail.com</a>> wrote: >> >>> I was not aware it was a vote.... let me set one up for everyone to be >>> aware of. >>> >>> Phillw >>> >>> On 10 May 2016 at 03:22, Walter Lapchynski <<a href="mailto:wxl@ubuntu.com">wxl@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: >>> >>>> So what I hear is, on the proposal of making a separate wiki server for >>>> LXQt, the voting is as follows: >>>> >>>> In favor: 1 >>>> Against: 2 >>>> >>>> How does everyone else vote? >>>> On May 9, 2016 7:18 PM, "Phill. Whiteside" <<a href="mailto:phillwuk@gmail.com">phillwuk@gmail.com</a>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Walter, >>>>> >>>>> we have exactly ONE page for LXQt.... How is having two operating >>>>> systems running side by side a better case of having two wiki areas? We are >>>>> committed to Qt and it appears Ubuntu are committed to moving from Moinmoin >>>>> to MediaWiki. Have a look at >>>>> <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/PrePostReleaseTODO" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/PrePostReleaseTODO</a> and >>>>> tell me how the hell am I supposed to add in LXQt running along side the >>>>> GTK ones... >>>>> >>>>> In my heart, I cannot see any reason NOT to have LXQt on the newer >>>>> MediaWiki system and keep our LTS's etc on moin. This does give everyone >>>>> just under 18 months to decide if we go to Qt or not. Alf is quietly >>>>> confident that it will be ready, and I do have faith in him and Julien >>>>> >>>>> As for maintaining?... We will have an official release (GTK) and a >>>>> community respin (Qt). This may be new to some, but us old wrinklies >>>>> remember them. >>>>> >>>>> There is no better time for lubuntu to run dual wiki systems as to >>>>> when we are running dual ISO's and ensure bugs are reported to the correct >>>>> version. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Phill. >>>>> >>>>> On 10 May 2016 at 02:52, Walter Lapchynski <<a href="mailto:wxl@ubuntu.com">wxl@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> You seem to be missing the fact that we all agree that MediaWiki is >>>>>> better than Moin. I don't want two wikis to have to maintain. If we can >>>>>> have someone else do the work of securing and maintaining our wiki, it's >>>>>> less for us to deal with. It would be the same for our WordPress site of we >>>>>> let Canonical host. The issue is not the money, nor is it being against >>>>>> everything you do. It's about limiting the strain on the entire team. >>>>>> On May 9, 2016 6:24 PM, "Phill. Whiteside" <<a href="mailto:phillwuk@gmail.com">phillwuk@gmail.com</a>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Why do you think <a href="http://lubuntu.me" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">lubuntu.me</a> is not hosted with canonical, yet they >>>>>>> did the trade mark registration? They are paying for the domain and the >>>>>>> hosting comes free..... I'll chat to Alf and Julien about what wiki >>>>>>> structure is best, writing up a wiki structure in moin that is not >>>>>>> compatible with MediaWiki is foolish. Any one who thinks Canonical IS are >>>>>>> smarter than Fedora guys is foolish. They posted their notes up so as to >>>>>>> help others facing the nightmare. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But, as the two of you are 100% against everything I suggest, I'll >>>>>>> just go 'meh' and work with debian-lxqt which you may find is the upstream >>>>>>> requirements for lubuntu-lxqt. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kindest Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Phill. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 10 May 2016 at 02:14, Walter Lapchynski <<a href="mailto:wxl@ubuntu.com">wxl@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm up for what the boss, i.e. the team, agrees on, too. My vote is >>>>>>>> to continue to use Moin. Ubuntu is done with it and are working on fixing >>>>>>>> the scripts so they can move entirely over to MediaWiki. Everything already >>>>>>>> on Moin will get magically converted. If we make our own thing, we have >>>>>>>> administrative overhead to deal with. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It's bad enough we don't have Canonical paying for our domain and >>>>>>>> dealing with our hosting. While we're at it can we fix that, too? >>>>>>>> On May 9, 2016 6:08 PM, "Phill. Whiteside" <<a href="mailto:phillwuk@gmail.com">phillwuk@gmail.com</a>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Well, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> it is vote time. I'm for not the fact that even fedora devs had a >>>>>>>>> makeshift script to convert things from moin to mediawiki[1] Any one >>>>>>>>> wanting to make a new project under moinmoin is making for more work in the >>>>>>>>> future. But, I'm up for what the boss says. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MoinMoin" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MoinMoin</a> >>>>>>>>> Is such a pain in the butt. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 10 May 2016 at 01:58, Simon Quigley <<a href="mailto:tsimonq2@ubuntu.com">tsimonq2@ubuntu.com</a>> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> IMHO we should write everything in MoinMoin then wait for the >>>>>>>>>> conversion so people can still view the wiki now and continue to hack on it >>>>>>>>>> but when the conversion runs, we have everything already available and set >>>>>>>>>> in place. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Simon Quigley >>>>>>>>>> <a href="mailto:tsimonq2@ubuntu.com">tsimonq2@ubuntu.com</a> >>>>>>>>>> tsimonq2 on Freenode >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Lubuntu-devel mailing list >>>>>>>>> <a href="mailto:Lubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">Lubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> >>>>>>>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>>>>>>>> <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-devel" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-devel</a> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Whiteside" <<a href="mailto:phillwuk@gmail.com">phillwuk@gmail.com</a>>, lubuntu user list <<a href="mailto:lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Subject: Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] LXQt wiki area Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:CAFe_ewjxDvrFPO4s_GHWmJL2VkU2KixpDtuXHG8zPeiYuTmFJg@mail.gmail.com">CAFe_ewjxDvrFPO4s_GHWmJL2VkU2KixpDtuXHG8zPeiYuTmFJg@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" It works. On May 9, 2016 8:08 PM, "Simon Quigley" <<a href="mailto:tsimonq2@ubuntu.com">tsimonq2@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: > Fine, but that's not how you use Doodle. :) > > -- > Simon Quigley > <a href="mailto:tsimonq2@ubuntu.com">tsimonq2@ubuntu.com</a> > tsimonq2 on Freenode > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Whiteside" <<a href="mailto:phillwuk@gmail.com">phillwuk@gmail.com</a>> Cc: lubuntu-devel <<a href="mailto:lubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">lubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a>>, lubuntu user list <<a href="mailto:lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Subject: Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] Your thoughts Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:573153D2.7010802@ubuntu.com">573153D2.7010802@ubuntu.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Remember to press the "Save" button after voting. -- Simon Quigley <a href="mailto:tsimonq2@ubuntu.com">tsimonq2@ubuntu.com</a> tsimonq2 on Freenode ------------------------------ -- Lubuntu-users mailing list <a href="mailto:Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users</a> End of Lubuntu-users Digest, Vol 53, Issue 16 ********************************************* </blockquote></div>