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I am was trying to explain not to use the 12.04 version of LXDE,
sorry if that was unclear.<br>
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To recap:<br>
You can install a PPA to have an up-to-date WM/DE (possibly even
LXDE).<br>
So yes, you CAN stay on 12.04.<br>
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But Dells usually work pretty well (aside from the b43 issue
sometimes, maybe others). 14.04 is quite nice, so if they can
upgrade I'd suggest it for sure.<br>
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On 08/08/2015 12:47 PM, Fritz Hudnut wrote:<br>
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Hi,<br>
In short: Yes you can, and should. Do not use 12.04 as
the version of<br>
LXDE (what Lubuntu is built on) is not supported.<br>
In Long:<br>
You can still use 12.04 if you want to use a PPA to
install a different<br>
interface. But even still 14.04 is a very snappy
system. I'd suggest<br>
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<div>et al:<br>
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<div>Just to rebutt on this somewhat confusing advice, "do
not use 12.04" followed by "I'd suggest upgrading to 12.04
for many reasons" ????? : - )) I still have Xu 12.04
running on my PM 3,1; I just got a number of updates even
last weekend on it. I've considered the software
reminders to "upgrade now to 14.04" on it . . . I did move
my iBook 933 MHz w/ 546 MB RAM to 14.04, but doing so was
not as trouble free as doing a 12.04 install. In 14 I had
to do an xorg.conf file to keep display from freezing,
and, then among other issues, the i2c thingie so that
there is no sound.<br>
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<div>Of course this is in the **problem area*** of being
PPC, but, in comparison, 12.04 installed w/o issues, and,
other than not having "suspend" . . . it is fine. There
is always a new flavor of linux coming down the pike, but,
for the old hardware perhaps whatever runs best/easiest is
the best choice.<br>
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<div>Will I ever bring my PM up to 14??? perhaps; I recently
tested the LiveDVD of Lu 14.04.2 on it, and posted my
experience of having no need for boot params, it was a bit
"snappier" as far as running commands in the Terminal
went; but then the window title bar text is illegible . .
. whereas everywhere else the display resolution was fine
. . . . Very odd, not a total showstopper, but, why take
time to upgrade the old machine, and then spend time
getting it to do basic stuff, stuff that 12.04 is doing
just fine??? Didn't get any comments from the list on
that one . . . in terms of suggestions on how to render
titlebar text so it would be read-able, or ideas on why it
would be un-readable, when the rest is fine.<br>
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<div>Israel has mentioned "ToriOS" here on the list a few
times along with JWM, which is possibly still based on
12.04??? Would that be a way to get an update on 12.04,
but still keep the stability and ease of installation . .
. rather than increasing system requirements on hardware
to move it up to 14?? Just trying to show that there
might be benefit for staying with 12 on low spec
equipment.<br>
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<div>F.<br>
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<div>PS: Someone mentioned qupzilla here and awhile back, so
I was looking for a browser that could work on my PPC
stuff . . . couldn't get it to show up in 12, but on the
iBook with 14 it did, so I installed it . . . when I tried
to "go" to Gmail or other webmail pages, it
crashed--several times . . . it was "removed." : - )<br>
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