<html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=utf-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Peter On 06/04/2015 08:14 AM, Peter Golis wrote: </div> <blockquote cite="mid:20150604151422.7A5F4A47@centrum.sk" type="cite"> Hello Israel, Could you please summarize your problems? You had written about issue with accessing console using Ubuntu mini. Are you talking about Mac Mini, or Ubuntu Minimal installation? Did you had try to force ofonly for video card during boot process? </blockquote> Ubuntu Mini on the iBook which is PPC. No, ofonly doesn't usually work on my model (in past experiences..), but I will try it, since I still have Debian Jessie mini installed. Also usually I can boot to at least console even if Xorg is psychedelic... I have an xorg file I usually pop on it, though I think 14.04 had perfect video, only sound didn't work. <blockquote cite="mid:20150604151422.7A5F4A47@centrum.sk" type="cite"> You had written about issue with power off when you had try to install random software. Did you had checked computer battery and power source? </blockquote> It was plugged in both times, and had a full battery. This is not a normal issue of "I did something random and careless" This is a big, PPC is not given any love and has gotten worse and worse. In 14.04 there was a huge issue with hwdetect, forcing me to research my specific sound modules and forcing them to load. Now, here we are a year later. I boot, and the computer either shuts down when I install things, OR (in Debian) I cannot even access a TTY. There is nothing. I turn it on, and voila! Nothing. Or course Debian has more issues (no built-in support for airport... but fixing that is doable... just annoying), but it is not meant to be beginner distro like Ubuntu. Which is why I normally use Ubuntu, it simply works and I do not have to spend any time tweaking system side things. I can spend my efforts tweaking my desktop/panels/keyboard shortcuts to fit my work flow. <blockquote cite="mid:20150604151422.7A5F4A47@centrum.sk" type="cite"> You had written about issue with sound. Did you had tested module loading? </blockquote> That was for 14.04... I did test... I don't remember which one it was, I think it was ornico maybe tas i don't remember, but it has been about a year since I tried 14.04. I had 12.04 mini with a WM installed until I tested Lubuntu 15.04, Ubuntu Mini 15.04, and now currently Debian Jessie mini. <blockquote cite="mid:20150604151422.7A5F4A47@centrum.sk" type="cite"> This email have conversation topic "ubuntu-15.04 PPC issues", where is available Ubuntu 15.04 for PowerPC architecture? </blockquote> You can download minimal images for all the supported architectures: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD#A32-bit_PowerPC_.28ppc.29.2A.2A">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD#A32-bit_PowerPC_.28ppc.29.2A.2A</a> You can also download a premade Lubuntu image for PPC, but I figure you already know this, and where it is... <blockquote cite="mid:20150604151422.7A5F4A47@centrum.sk" type="cite"> Peter. ______________________________________________________________ > Od: Israel <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:israeldahl@gmail.com"><israeldahl@gmail.com></a> > Komu: Peter Golis <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:golisp@centrum.sk"><golisp@centrum.sk></a>, Fritz Hudnut <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:este.el.paz@gmail.com"><este.el.paz@gmail.com></a> > Dátum: 04.06.2015 13:51 > Predmet: Re: ubuntu-15.04 PPC issues > > CC: "lubuntu user list" <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Peter, My issue running Lubuntu (and Mini and Debian Jessie) on PPC was much larger than a sound issue. There is little I can do to even boot to anything coherent. I cannot even get to a console reliably to even begin to try to modprobe, or mess with xorg, or any of those fine things that PPC often requires. In the Ubuntu mini, I would run for a while fine, but if I tried to install something the computer would simply turn off. It surely is possible the hardware is no longer working, but I will test out some that I know to be working (12.04 worked flawlessly), and with 14.04 I can: sudo modprobe snd-aoa-whateverone and mess with alsamixer. Thanks you for your input!! I appreciate your insights and help. On 06/04/2015 02:00 AM, Peter Golis wrote:</div> <blockquote cite="mid:20150604090001.15AA0EB7@centrum.sk"> Hello Gentleman, As was mentioned previousely, and as is written in PPC FAQ, better is to try load missing module.If that will not help, then there is need to try 12.04 Live with old PowerPC sound modules and check type of hardware together with /proc/cpuinfo for model type. From that type can be made patch for upstream kernel as migration from snd-powerpc to sns-aoa-* is not yet done. Have a nice day, Peter. ______________________________________________________________ > Od: Israel <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:israeldahl@gmail.com"><israeldahl@gmail.com></a> > Komu: Fritz Hudnut <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:este.el.paz@gmail.com"><este.el.paz@gmail.com></a> > Dátum: 04.06.2015 04:03 > Predmet: Re: ubuntu-15.04 PPC issues > > CC: "lubuntu user list" On 06/03/2015 07:45 PM, Fritz Hudnut wrote: > Israel: > > Right now 14.04 is fine for PPC . . . there is a "Fixing sound in > 14.04" thread on the Apple Hardware sub-forum . . . some are "easier" > to do than others . . . . I have some posts on that thread, and once > I got around to trying to fix it, mine was pretty easy . . . . There > are instructions, perhaps on the PowerPCFAQ, as well . . . you have to > find out which "device ID" alsamixer is using??? > > If you can't find the thread, let me know . . . "rsavage" is the > gentleman who posted the fixes for sound there. > > F > Hi Fritz! I haven't looked at that thread in quite a while (probably close to a year...), so I will revisit it, since I am sure there have been more suggestions and fixes. I didn't see the alsamixer thing, so I will definitely have to give it another look! -- Regards -- Lubuntu-users mailing list <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users</a> </blockquote> <pre class="moz-signature">-- Regards</pre> </blockquote> <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- Regards</pre> </body> </html>