<div dir="ltr"><div>It seems the solution I gave you isn't a permanent one. I've found (with the help of that friend) the method to make the change permanent in this discussion: <a href="http://askubuntu.com/questions/102344/switching-keyboard-layouts-in-lubuntu-11-10">http://askubuntu.com/questions/102344/switching-keyboard-layouts-in-lubuntu-11-10</a><br><br></div>It's a bit complicated but I'm copying it in hope that it will help others:<br><br>
<ol><li><p>Install the desired languages.</p>
<pre><code>$ gnome-language-selector
</code></pre></li><li><p>Create a shell script to execute setxkbmap after a delay and save
it in a convenient place. Running it in the background may speed up the
login process. Increase sleep time if needed. Replace "us, il" with
your desired language codes.</p>
<pre><code>$ echo '(sleep 2; setxkbmap -option grp:alt_shift_toggle -layout "us,il") &' > ~/setxkbmap.sh
</code></pre></li><li><p>Make the script executable and verify that it works by toggling the key combination Alt-Shift to switch language.</p>
<pre><code>$ chmod +x ~/setxkbmap.sh
$ ~/setxkbmap.sh
</code></pre></li><li><p>Create a .desktop file which executes the shell script just created. Replace "username" with your username.</p>
<pre><code>$ echo '[Desktop Entry]
Type=Application
Name=Keyboard Language Switcher
Exec=/home/username/setxkbmap.sh
Icon=/usr/share/lxkeymap/media/icon.png
' > ~/Desktop/setxkbmap.desktop
</code></pre></li><li><p>Logout and login again, then test by clicking on the new icon on your desktop, then toggling Alt-Shift.</p></li><li><p>Move the .desktop file to ~/.config/autostart</p>
<pre><code>$ mv ~/Desktop/setxkbmap.desktop ~/.config/autostart
</code></pre></li><li><p>Logout and login again, then test by toggling Alt-Shift.</p></li></ol> </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="rtl"><br></div><div><br><br>אלעד הן<br>נייד: 052-5348554<br></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 11:08 PM, אלעד הן <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:eladhen2@gmail.com" target="_blank">eladhen2@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;border-right:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;padding-right:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Of course, you should uninstall the Hebrew input method before doing this.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br></font></span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br clear="all"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="rtl"><br></div><div><br><br>אלעד הן<br>נייד: 052-5348554<br></div></div></div></div></font></span><div><div class="h5">
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 11:02 PM, אלעד הן <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:eladhen2@gmail.com" target="_blank">eladhen2@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;border-right:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;padding-right:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Ok, a good friend, and far more knowledgeable than myself in the world of linux, gave me the solution.<br><br></div>He says he thinks the way Lubuntu switches between languages is the source of the problem. <br><br></div>He told me to run this command: <br><div><b><br>setxkbmap -option grp:alt_shift_toggle "us,il"</b><br><br></div><div>Now everything works wonderfully. <br><br></div><div>How can I help lubuntu fix this problem?<br><br></div><div>Thank all of you for your patience and your help. It makes even solving problems a nice experience.<span><font color="#888888"><br><br><br></font></span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><span><font color="#888888"><br clear="all"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="rtl"><br></div><div><br><br>אלעד הן<br>נייד: 052-5348554<br></div></div></div></div></font></span><div><div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 10:33 PM, אלעד הן <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:eladhen2@gmail.com" target="_blank">eladhen2@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;border-right:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;padding-right:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I tried it out in Gedit. LibreOffice still has the spellchecker.<span><font color="#888888"><br></font></span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><span><font color="#888888"><br clear="all"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="rtl"><br></div><div><br><br>אלעד הן<br>נייד: 052-5348554<br></div></div></div></div></font></span><div><div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 10:30 PM, Walter Lapchynski <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wxl@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">wxl@ubuntu.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">מזל טוב ☺<br>
<br>
What word processor?<br>
<div><div><br>
On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 12:28 PM, אלעד הן <<a href="mailto:eladhen2@gmail.com" target="_blank">eladhen2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> It worked! Thank you so much!<br>
><br>
> The only problem is now I seem to have lost the Hebrew spell checker, which<br>
> I guess is part of the other Hebrew input method. Is there a way to get only<br>
> the spell checker?<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> אלעד הן<br>
> נייד: 052-5348554<br>
><br>
> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Walter Lapchynski <<a href="mailto:wxl@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">wxl@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Keyboard Input Methods in the Preferences menu. Or just run<br>
>> `ibus-setup` from the command line. Or you can use the "Run" option in<br>
>> the menu. Or you can use the Alt-F2 shortcut for that Run option.<br>
>><br>
>> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 12:09 PM, אלעד הן <<a href="mailto:eladhen2@gmail.com" target="_blank">eladhen2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > Well, I installed it but now embarrassingly I have no Idea where<br>
>> > ibus-setup<br>
>> > is...<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Anyway, as far as I know there are no physical differences between US<br>
>> > and<br>
>> > Hebrew keyboards.<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > אלעד הן<br>
>> > נייד: 052-5348554<br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 10:05 PM, Walter Lapchynski <<a href="mailto:wxl@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">wxl@ubuntu.com</a>><br>
>> > wrote:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Well, it might work with the Hebrew keyboard, too. It's worth trying<br>
>> >> with<br>
>> >> both.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> On 3/1/15, אלעד הן <<a href="mailto:eladhen2@gmail.com" target="_blank">eladhen2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >> > Thanks! Well, I have a US keyboard too (I have little stickers for<br>
>> >> > the<br>
>> >> > Hebrew letters) so this definitely seems worth a try.<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > אלעד הן<br>
>> >> > נייד: 052-5348554<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Walter Lapchynski <<a href="mailto:wxl@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">wxl@ubuntu.com</a>><br>
>> >> > wrote:<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> >> One thing I read from there is potentially installing the<br>
>> >> >> `ibus-m17n`<br>
>> >> >> package and then choosing the Hebrew input method in `ibus-setup`. I<br>
>> >> >> actually just did this, switched to the Hebrew input method and was<br>
>> >> >> able to copy and paste no problem. Of course, I do have a US<br>
>> >> >> keyboard,<br>
>> >> >> so that might not be a good test ☺<br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 11:25 AM, אלעד הן <<a href="mailto:eladhen2@gmail.com" target="_blank">eladhen2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >> >> > Thank you very much.<br>
>> >> >> ><br>
>> >> >> > The problem is global as far as I can tell (in every program and<br>
>> >> >> > even<br>
>> >> >> > in<br>
>> >> >> the<br>
>> >> >> > file manager).<br>
>> >> >> ><br>
>> >> >> > I will try changing the layout and see if it helps.<br>
>> >> >> ><br>
>> >> >> > I came across this bit of information:<br>
>> >> >> ><br>
>> >> >> > <a href="http://en.libreofficeforum.org/node/1586" target="_blank">http://en.libreofficeforum.org/node/1586</a><br>
>> >> >> ><br>
>> >> >> > But I'm too ill-informed to understand if what they describe is<br>
>> >> >> > the<br>
>> >> >> > same<br>
>> >> >> > problem and what exactly they're suggesting as a solution...<br>
>> >> >> ><br>
>> >> >> ><br>
>> >> >> ><br>
>> >> >> ><br>
>> >> >> > אלעד הן<br>
>> >> >> > נייד: 052-5348554<br>
>> >> >> ><br>
>> >> >> > On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 8:58 PM, Walter Lapchynski <<a href="mailto:wxl@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">wxl@ubuntu.com</a>><br>
>> >> >> wrote:<br>
>> >> >> >><br>
>> >> >> >> First off, there is an [Ubuntu Local Community in Israel][1] that<br>
>> >> >> >> you<br>
>> >> >> >> may want to connect with, especially considering they have<br>
>> >> >> >> probably<br>
>> >> >> >> faced the same issue.<br>
>> >> >> >><br>
>> >> >> >> Secondly, this is not solely a Lubuntu issue. Sure, we have<br>
>> >> >> >> different<br>
>> >> >> >> GUI tools to do this and that but ultimately "under the hood"<br>
>> >> >> >> Ubuntu<br>
>> >> >> >> and Lubuntu is the same. That being said, it may be useful to ask<br>
>> >> >> >> in<br>
>> >> >> >> Ubuntu circles what the appropriate command line solution is. If<br>
>> >> >> >> you<br>
>> >> >> >> can figure that out, I'm sure we can translate that into an<br>
>> >> >> >> appropriate Lubuntu GUI solution.<br>
>> >> >> >><br>
>> >> >> >> Now, is this only in the word processor or is this global? If<br>
>> >> >> >> it's<br>
>> >> >> >> only the word processor, you might want to see if it has better<br>
>> >> >> >> support for Hebrew. For example, I know of the package<br>
>> >> >> >> `libreoffice-l10n-he` which adds some additional support for<br>
>> >> >> >> Hebrew.<br>
>> >> >> >><br>
>> >> >> >> If it is global, then you may want to try the alternative<br>
>> >> >> >> keyboard<br>
>> >> >> >> layouts (lyx, phonetic, biblical). I have searched through the<br>
>> >> >> >> plethora of options that `setxkbmap` offers (see `man<br>
>> >> >> >> xkeyboard-config`) and I don't find anything particularly<br>
>> >> >> >> obvious,<br>
>> >> >> >> so<br>
>> >> >> >> I would imagine that one of these three layouts probably has your<br>
>> >> >> >> solution.<br>
>> >> >> >><br>
>> >> >> >> My guess is either that this is specific to a particular<br>
>> >> >> >> application<br>
>> >> >> >> (in which case the answer may involve digging through its<br>
>> >> >> >> configuration and/or complaining to the folks that make that<br>
>> >> >> >> application) or that some existing keyboard layout or option<br>
>> >> >> >> provides<br>
>> >> >> >> the answer.<br>
>> >> >> >><br>
>> >> >> >> It is possible that people just switch keyboard layouts. Sure<br>
>> >> >> >> seems<br>
>> >> >> >> strange, but it's possible. If you look at the "Switching to<br>
>> >> >> >> another<br>
>> >> >> >> layout" section in the aforementioned man page, you'll see you<br>
>> >> >> >> can<br>
>> >> >> >> define hotkeys to quickly make this change.<br>
>> >> >> >><br>
>> >> >> >> I will note that /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/il seems to be<br>
>> >> >> >> written<br>
>> >> >> >> by<br>
>> >> >> >> someone who has a better sense of Hebrew than I do, referencing<br>
>> >> >> >> the<br>
>> >> >> >> "standard SI-1452." That being said, I my gut tells me they<br>
>> >> >> >> probably<br>
>> >> >> >> didn't miss this crucial set of hotkeys.<br>
>> >> >> >><br>
>> >> >> >> If you discover the answer, please share with us! Perhaps even<br>
>> >> >> >> better,<br>
>> >> >> >> add what you find to the [Hebrew Localization Ubuntu wiki<br>
>> >> >> >> page][2].<br>
>> >> >> >> Good luck!<br>
>> >> >> >><br>
>> >> >> >> [1]: <a href="http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-il/" target="_blank">http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-il/</a><br>
>> >> >> >> [2]: <a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HebrewLocalizationHowto" target="_blank">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HebrewLocalizationHowto</a><br>
>> >> >> >><br>
>> >> >> >><br>
>> >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 8:26 AM, אלעד הן <<a href="mailto:elad2040@gmail.com" target="_blank">elad2040@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> >> >> >> wrote:<br>
>> >> >> >> > Thanks for responding. I'm to much of a newbie to understand<br>
>> >> >> >> > most<br>
>> >> >> >> > of<br>
>> >> >> >> > what<br>
>> >> >> >> > you said though :(<br>
>> >> >> >> ><br>
>> >> >> >> > The site doesn't seem to be related to linux...<br>
>> >> >> >> ><br>
>> >> >> >> > I looked through the different keyboard options in<br>
>> >> >> >> > "preferences"<br>
>> >> >> >> > and<br>
>> >> >> >> > there<br>
>> >> >> >> > aren't many of them, and nothing looks relevant...<br>
>> >> >> >> ><br>
>> >> >> >> ><br>
>> >> >> >> ><br>
>> >> >> >> ><br>
>> >> >> >> > אלעד הן<br>
>> >> >> >> > נייד: 052-5348554<br>
>> >> >> >> ><br>
>> >> >> >> > On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Israel <<a href="mailto:israeldahl@gmail.com" target="_blank">israeldahl@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> >> >> >> > wrote:<br>
>> >> >> >> >><br>
>> >> >> >> >> On 03/01/2015 04:55 AM, אלעד הן wrote:<br>
>> >> >> >> >><br>
>> >> >> >> >> Hi everyone. I'm a total newbie and probably doing this wrong<br>
>> >> >> >> >> but<br>
>> >> >> bare<br>
>> >> >> >> >> with me... I tried searching for answers to this problem, but<br>
>> >> >> although<br>
>> >> >> >> >> I've<br>
>> >> >> >> >> found several references to it, I couldn't find a solution.<br>
>> >> >> >> >><br>
>> >> >> >> >> Anyway, I installed lubuntu 14.04 (not the 64 bit version) on<br>
>> >> >> >> >> my<br>
>> >> >> >> >> old<br>
>> >> >> >> >> laptop and I'm very pleased with the performances.<br>
>> >> >> >> >><br>
>> >> >> >> >> When word-processing I mostly use Hebrew, and I've found the<br>
>> >> >> >> >> Keyboard<br>
>> >> >> >> >> shortcuts don't work when I'm the keyboard is switched to<br>
>> >> >> >> >> Hebrew.<br>
>> >> >> This<br>
>> >> >> >> >> means<br>
>> >> >> >> >> that every time I want to copy and paste in Hebrew I first<br>
>> >> >> >> >> have<br>
>> >> >> >> >> to<br>
>> >> >> >> >> switch<br>
>> >> >> >> >> back to English, use the shortcuts and switch back to Hebrew.<br>
>> >> >> >> >> This<br>
>> >> >> is a<br>
>> >> >> >> >> very<br>
>> >> >> >> >> big problem for the flow of work, and makes the shortcuts<br>
>> >> >> >> >> hardly<br>
>> >> >> short.<br>
>> >> >> >> >><br>
>> >> >> >> >> Does anyone have a solution for this?<br>
>> >> >> >> >><br>
>> >> >> >> >> Thank you.<br>
>> >> >> >> >><br>
>> >> >> >> >><br>
>> >> >> >> >><br>
>> >> >> >> >> אלעד הן<br>
>> >> >> >> >> נייד: 052-5348554<br>
>> >> >> >> >><br>
>> >> >> >> >><br>
>> >> >> >> >><br>
>> >> >> >> >> Hi Elad,<br>
>> >> >> >> >> It may be an issue with the way the Hebrew keyboard is mapped.<br>
>> >> >> >> >> The<br>
>> >> >> >> >> keyboard probably represents "V" and "C" incorrectly. Which<br>
>> >> >> >> >> would<br>
>> >> >> >> >> make<br>
>> >> >> >> >> sense, which one becomes 'V' and which one becomes 'C'? There<br>
>> >> >> >> >> are<br>
>> >> >> >> >> at<br>
>> >> >> >> >> least<br>
>> >> >> >> >> 2 for each of those that I can think of, right?<br>
>> >> >> >> >><br>
>> >> >> >> >> You may find something here:<br>
>> >> >> >> >> <a href="http://penguin.org.il/" target="_blank">http://penguin.org.il/</a><br>
>> >> >> >> >> Since it is an Israeli Linux site.<br>
>> >> >> >> >><br>
>> >> >> >> >> I think this may be related to X keyboard mapping, though that<br>
>> >> >> >> >> is<br>
>> >> >> >> >> a<br>
>> >> >> >> >> guess.<br>
>> >> >> >> >><br>
>> >> >> >> >> Sorry I do not know a specific solution, though. You might<br>
>> >> >> >> >> try<br>
>> >> >> asking<br>
>> >> >> >> >> in<br>
>> >> >> >> >> Hebrew specific IRC channels, or asking someone at a local<br>
>> >> >> >> >> Linux<br>
>> >> >> >> >> User<br>
>> >> >> >> >> Group.<br>
>> >> >> >> >><br>
>> >> >> >> >> --<br>
>> >> >> >> >> Regards<br>
>> >> >> >> >><br>
>> >> >> >> >><br>
>> >> >> >> >> --<br>
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>> >> >> >> ><br>
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>> >> >> >><br>
>> >> >> >> --<br>
>> >> >> >> @wxl | <a href="http://polka.bike" target="_blank">http://polka.bike</a><br>
>> >> >> >> Lubuntu Release Manager, Head of QA<br>
>> >> >> >> Ubuntu PPC Point of Contact<br>
>> >> >> >> Ubuntu Oregon LoCo Team Leader<br>
>> >> >> >> Eugene Unix & GNU/Linux User Group Co-Organizer<br>
>> >> >> ><br>
>> >> >> ><br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >> --<br>
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>> >> >> Lubuntu Release Manager, Head of QA<br>
>> >> >> Ubuntu PPC Point of Contact<br>
>> >> >> Ubuntu Oregon LoCo Team Leader<br>
>> >> >> Eugene Unix & GNU/Linux User Group Co-Organizer<br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
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