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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">I regard the Windows imaging tool as
        broken for the purpose of burning to DVD.  I think it worked in
        early versions of Windows 7, but then they broke it in a later
        version.  By the time they included the Win 7 tool in Win 8
        (!!), DVD support was clearly broken, or I forget, not even
        presented as an option.<br>
        <br>
        But it should work fine if you save the image to a hard drive, a
        network share, or a *large* USB flash drive.<br>
        <br>
        Or use something other than the native Windows tool if you want
        to burn to DVD's.<br>
        <br>
        On 10/4/2014 12:24 AM, "J. Van Brimmer" wrote:<br>
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            style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">That's

            what I intend to do once I get the DVDs created. I was
            having trouble with the Windows backup tool writing to my
            external ASUS DVD-RW USB drive. It seemed to write data to
            disc 1, and then it would tell me to insert another disc
            larger than 1GB as Disc 1 again. I'll have to retry that
            tomorrow. Not sure what's going on there. I was using 4.7GB
            DVD-R discs. I just can't express how much I dislike *dows.
            There were no messages that Disc 1 was complete, or anything
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            <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 6:50 PM,
              Israel <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:israeldahl@gmail.com" target="_blank">israeldahl@gmail.com</a>></span>
              wrote:<br>
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                  <div>Hi,<br>
                    Every so often I get a computer with windows on it,
                    and I resize the windows partition for the person,
                    so they can run their Windows only apps.<br>
                    I have never once had an issue.  But really, most of
                    the time, I only use Windows to update the BIOS.<br>
                    And then the next thing I do is install a <span
                      id="61f6f2ac-fbc5-4291-a012-8ca55d380cec"
                      class="GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark">flavour</span> of
                    Ubuntu.  Usually Lubuntu, but sometimes Xubuntu.<br>
                    <br>
                    That said, I never use the Windows partitioner.  I
                    manually partition the system inside the LiveCD. 
                    Windows has always "worked" during those times.  <span
                      id="0b86e108-720d-4d9d-9a31-ef3c08495863"
                      class="GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark">Usually, though it</span>
                    is better to reinstall Windows so you get a fresh
                    registry.  Though the newer NT based versions seem
                    to handle things a bit better, they always seem to
                    get slower, and full of viruses after they have been
                    used for somewhere around a year.<br>
                    <br>
                    Most of the 'broken' computers I get have windows
                    issues.  I had one that the sound wasn't working,
                    and the DVD drive no longer functioned (in
                    windows).  I simply booted a live CD (yes the drive
                    did work), and voila... <span
                      id="d4be6e87-390f-4fdc-8fdc-8f853bbd4a50"
                      class="GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark">everything</span> was
                    working.
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                        On 10/03/2014 08:15 PM, "J. Van Brimmer" wrote:<br>
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                            style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">Yeah,


                            I understand that it's a loaded question. I
                            was just wondering if anyone here had tried
                            it before. After I get my DVD images
                            complete and tested, I'm going to try it.</div>
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                          <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 3, 2014
                            at 5:30 PM, Andre Rodovalho <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:andre.rodovalho@gmail.com"
                                target="_blank">andre.rodovalho@gmail.com</a>></span>
                            wrote:<br>
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                                <div>Nobody will answer you for sure.
                                  Even if you contact Windows support...
                                  Give it a try. If you have any
                                  problems, you restore that. Better now
                                  that you have nothing on your Windows
                                  than later...</div>
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                                <div>PS: Windows 7 requires 20GB for
                                  64bits architecture.</div>
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                                <div class="gmail_quote">2014-10-03
                                  20:26 GMT-03:00 "J. Van Brimmer" <span
                                    dir="ltr"><<a
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                                      href="mailto:jerry.vb@gmail.com"
                                      target="_blank">jerry.vb@gmail.com</a></span><span
                                    dir="ltr">></span><span
                                    id="8524d24f-a93a-45ff-8a92-1a7729b377c8"
                                    class="GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark">:</span><br>
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                                            style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">It


                                            has a 500Gb hard drive, but
                                            the "C" partition was only
                                            about 460Gb. When I ran the
                                            Partitoner from inside
                                            Windows, it would only
                                            shrink "C" down to 226Gb. </div>
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                                            style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">I
                                            just now booted up a Lubuntu
                                            live 14.04 disc and ran
                                            Gparted from inside Lubu. <span><span
id="0da6761d-8d53-49c2-9342-0eaf5a6d00a1" class="GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark">Gparted</span></span>
                                            says I can shrink "C" down
                                            to 36.6 Gb minimum. But, I
                                            have no problem leaving it
                                            at 100 Gb. I just want to
                                            know, if I shrink it down
                                            below the 226 Gb boundary
                                            set by the Windows
                                            partitioner, will it clobber
                                            Windows? Will I have to
                                            factory restore the system
                                            just to have a
                                            running windows?</div>
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                                            style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">I
                                            am tempted to just wipe the
                                            whole disc, but I thought if
                                            I can shrink "C" down to 100
                                            Gb, I'd leave it there.</div>
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                                              <div class="gmail_quote">On

                                                Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 2:40
                                                PM, Aere Greenway <span
                                                  dir="ltr"><<a
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Aere@dvorak-keyboards.com" target="_blank">Aere@dvorak-keyboards.com</a>></span>
                                                wrote:<br>
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                                                        <div>On
                                                          10/03/2014
                                                          11:30 AM, "J.
                                                          Van Brimmer"
                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Hello,<br>
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                                                          style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">I
                                                          have just
                                                          acquired a
                                                          "new"
                                                          refurbished
                                                          Lenovo X140e <span
id="0db23e36-a126-4aaa-b7f5-7850f2ba2038" class="GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark">netbook</span>.
                                                          <span
                                                          id="bfb8da89-48df-4a50-8e4f-a6998420d04b"
class="GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark">tI</span> has Windows 7 Pro on it. The
                                                          first thing I
                                                          did after
                                                          booting it up
                                                          was to go into
                                                          Partition
                                                          Management to
                                                          shrink the C
                                                          partition to
                                                          make room for
                                                          Lubuntu. I was
                                                          shocked to
                                                          discover that
                                                          the partition
                                                          manager would
                                                          only shrink <span
id="e4e4d043-df8b-47e9-8d03-3700017f1650" class="GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark">C</span>
                                                          by 50%. So, I
                                                          went ahead and
                                                          did that.<br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Then,



                                                          I booted up a
                                                          live CD of
                                                          Gparted. <span
id="b62ad9a9-9d89-4d97-8fd2-3fd21d936b8e" class="GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark">Gparted</span>
                                                          says I can
                                                          shrink C way
                                                          down a lot
                                                          more. I don't
                                                          remember how
                                                          far it was,
                                                          but it was way
                                                          down, less
                                                          than 100 GB. <br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Can



                                                          I safely
                                                          follow
                                                          Gparted's
                                                          recommendation
                                                          and not impact
                                                          Winbroke? I am
                                                          not too
                                                          terribly
                                                          worried about
                                                          it though. I
                                                          am going to
                                                          create a
                                                          restore image
                                                          DVD, but I
                                                          just thought
                                                          I'd ask to see
                                                          if anyone has
                                                          any experience
                                                          <span
                                                          id="236389b2-2671-4ee1-a585-0d913cd65936"
class="GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark">on</span> this before I get started. <br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          -- <br>
                                                          ->Jerry<span
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                                                    Jerry:<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    I once had a Windows
                                                    partition that I
                                                    re-sized way down to
                                                    a size that seemed
                                                    reasonable at the
                                                    time.  It seemed
                                                    reasonable because I
                                                    only use that system
                                                    for testing.  <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    A year or so later,
                                                    that system was
                                                    in-trouble because
                                                    of insufficient
                                                    space.  <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    The culprit?  The
                                                    space was used up by
                                                    the multitude of
                                                    Windows updates.  <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    I had to re-size the
                                                    Windows partition to
                                                    a larger size to
                                                    rescue the system
                                                    (which involved
                                                    resizing and even
                                                    moving my Linux
                                                    partitions).  <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    So by word of
                                                    experience, in
                                                    re-sizing a Windows
                                                    partition, be sure
                                                    to leave it room to
                                                    install the many
                                                    necessary Windows
                                                    updates.  On Windows
                                                    7 and above, it also
                                                    creates a
                                                    restore-point
                                                    whenever you install
                                                    anything, and <span
id="67b2e4e7-b019-4caf-9493-24b91461a70d" class="GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark">those</span>
                                                    restore-points take
                                                    up disk space as
                                                    well.  <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    I do recommend
                                                    keeping your Windows
                                                    partition around
                                                    (and usable) if you
                                                    have one.  Over the
                                                    years, there have
                                                    been many cases
                                                    where I was glad I
                                                    saved it for those
                                                    occasional things
                                                    that won't run on
                                                    Linux, or for which
                                                    Linux has no
                                                    practical
                                                    alternative.  <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    Linux has been very
                                                    reliable in
                                                    re-sizing all of my
                                                    Windows partitions. 
                                                    In over 10 years of
                                                    experience, it only
                                                    failed once, and in
                                                    that case, there may
                                                    have been disk
                                                    errors in the
                                                    Windows partition. 
                                                    So make sure you do
                                                    a disk check of the
                                                    Windows partition
                                                    before re-sizing
                                                    it.  <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    Beware that on
                                                    Windows 8, it may
                                                    leave its partition
                                                    in a 'suspend'
                                                    (hibernate) state,
                                                    so re-sizing it
                                                    could give you
                                                    problems.  <br>
                                                    <span><font
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                                                        <pre cols="72">-- 
Sincerely,
Aere</pre>
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                                          <span><font color="#888888">--
                                              <br>
                                              ->Jerry<span
                                                id="2432a9a4-e3e1-4c98-8642-bb930ce6163e"
class="GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark"><-</span> </font></span></div>
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                                    <span>--<br>
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                                        id="10f584ec-ef2b-4957-95c1-f8734f8c18de"
                                        class="GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark">Lubuntu</span>-users

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                          -- <br>
                          ->Jerry<span
                            id="8357c910-5e71-4484-a7de-e7d795d82543"
                            class="GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark"><-</span> </div>
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                      <pre cols="72">-- 
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