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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Thanks, Andre.  So it would seem then
      that HP HPLIP does not support this function as widely as I
      surmised from other feedback.<br>
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      Printers with embedded web servers -- that's a good additional
      thought.  Both the EWS and control panel provisions require no
      additional software.<br>
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      On 7/24/2014 12:50 PM, Andre Rodovalho wrote:<br>
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        <div>I have no luck on ink levels with HP printers, nor Epson...
          I only install HPLIP or Epson driver, nothing more.</div>
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        <div>In office I have several printers. I prefer those with
          embedded web server that shows us lots of things, including
          wifi and network configuration and ink levels.<br>
          <br>
          I have a HP Pro 8000, HP Pro 8100, a Brother DCP-7065DN, all
          those are much more expensive printers, but you buy them only
          once. I also have a Epson L355, but this specific model you
          can see ink levels from outside!!<br>
          <br>
          At home, I own a cheap Samsung ML-2165W, it has embedded web
          server. It does the job...</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">2014-07-24 11:37 GMT-03:00 John Hupp <span
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              <div>Thanks, Eric, for the well-developed documentation
                for this case.  <br>
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                For the Epson C120 that I was working with, I didn't
                need to download a PPD from Epson -- nor did they have a
                DEB file available to download for it -- but I'm glad to
                know that they provide this support for some models.<br>
                <br>
                Though I mentioned the Epson in my original post and I
                still have that, I really am interested in knowing about
                the availability of solutions across all the major
                manufacturers.  My currently daily-use printer is an HP
                Laserjet P2015d, but I own several brands here, and I
                have supported all brands.<br>
                <br>
                So far what we've rounded up regarding ink level
                reporting:<br>
                - HP inkjets have general support via HPLIP<br>
                - Epson has no support, unless some models report this
                via hardware on a control panel (as Aere reports RE an
                HP)<br>
                - A general workaround concept: Install Windows in a
                partition or virtual machine and use the Windows printer
                software for an occasional level checkup<br>
                - (No word yet on printing heavyweights Brother and
                Canon, or others)
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                    On 7/23/2014 9:21 PM, Eric Bradshaw wrote:<br>
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                      <div>John Hupp,</div>
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                      <div>I agree with Israel that the ink level
                        reporting from HP is, in my experience,
                        consistently provided with their drivers. I also
                        find HP printers to be built better than
                        Epson's; better quality hardware that typically
                        lasts longer. But, despite all that, I've only
                        set up HP printers for others.</div>
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                      <div>For printing in my own home, I, like you,
                        choose Epson. The two biggest drawbacks I've
                        found are, as you said, the lack of ink level
                        reporting and the sometimes painful-to-configure
                        scanning and faxing (when I've actually had to
                        fax). I've learned to live with all that because
                        the Epson all-in-one printers I buy are
                        typically under $100, the color is absolutely
                        brilliant, networking (including wifi) is a
                        breeze and they work and work and work - right
                        up I until they don't. Typically about 2 years.</div>
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                      <div>Unfortunately I've never solved the ink level
                        reporting issue. I've just made sure I have ink
                        in reserve for when my latest Epson literally
                        stops printing because a particular color is
                        out. If you get the ink level reporting issue
                        solved, please share the steps. Otherwise, I'm
                        okay. It's a minor annoyance. I hope you'll be
                        okay with it too if you don't get the issue
                        solved.</div>
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                      <div>The drivers for Epson for Linux are available
                        for every one I've owned so far. The following
                        is a link to a page on our website that uses an
                        Epson WorkForce 645 in an example for
                        downloading PPD files (that reminds me, this
                        page might need updating, but you'll get the
                        idea);</div>
                      <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://computers4christians.org/FAQ/OS/HowTo/Print/Network.html"
                          target="_blank">http://computers4christians.org/FAQ/OS/HowTo/Print/Network.html</a></div>
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                      <div>Eric</div>
                      <div>--</div>
                      <div>Thank You,</div>
                      <div>God Bless You,</div>
                      <div>Computers4Christians</div>
                      <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://Computers4Christians.org/"
                          target="_blank">http://Computers4Christians.org/</a></div>
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                      <div>On 07/23/2014 11:35 AM, John Hupp wrote:
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                      <div>> A while back (under 13.04) I was working
                        with an Epson Stylus C120 and
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                      <div>> got it installed for printing purposes
                        after getting past
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                      <div>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/system-config-printer/+bug/1133794"
                          target="_blank">http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/system-config-printer/+bug/1133794</a>.
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                      <div>> I used CUPS and a Gutenprint driver.
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                      <div>> But unlike most Windows inkjet printer
                        installations, I found no
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                      <div>> provision for reporting ink levels.  I
                        found Mtink, but it did not work.
                      </div>
                      <div>>
                      </div>
                      <div>> In the meantime I stumbled onto the <a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://libinklevel.sourceforge.net"
                          target="_blank">http://libinklevel.sourceforge.net</a>
                      </div>
                      <div>> project, which is a library for
                        reporting ink levels.  And at
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                      <div>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://libinklevel.sourceforge.net/#installation"
                          target="_blank">http://libinklevel.sourceforge.net/#installation</a>
                        there is reference to
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                      <div>> packages that use this library.
                      </div>
                      <div>>
                      </div>
                      <div>> But on the library's home page there is
                        no news since 2009, and the
                      </div>
                      <div>> mailing list archives seem to no longer
                        exist.
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                      <div>>
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                      <div>> Epson offers this link:
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                      <div>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://download.ebz.epson.net/dsc/search/01/search/?OSC=LX"
                          target="_blank">http://download.ebz.epson.net/dsc/search/01/search/?OSC=LX</a>.
                        But I
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                      <div>> don't find anything there for Debian or
                        Ubuntu.
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                      <div>>
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                      <div>> Perhaps another manufacturer has their
                        own package that includes
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                      <div>> provision for this function.
                      </div>
                      <div>>
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                      <div>> Is anyone successfully reporting ink
                        levels (one way or another) for
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                      <div>> any major brand of printer?</div>
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