<div dir="ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div>I recall that desktop PPC went over size. Julien took a sword to the alternate in order to ensure it is CD sized. In my humble opinion, people wanting to use LVM's should know how to install the tools needed. (I use LVM's, run 11 KVM machines and also SEL :D ).</div> <div><br></div><div>Do feel free to raise a bug report, I'm hopeful that it is not a massive job for Julien to add in the library for 14.04.1, but I also do not want to peck him to the point he gets fed up of PPC. </div> <div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Phill.</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 8 July 2014 02:56, Mark Millard <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:markmi@dsl-only.net" target="_blank">markmi@dsl-only.net</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div style="margin:0px;font-size:14px;font-family:Georgia"><div style="margin:0px"><div style="margin:0px"> [Answering Israel's md5 question...]</div><div style="margin:0px;min-height:16px"><br></div><div style="margin:0px">MD5 (/Volumes/MiscStuff/lubuntu-14.04-alternate-powerpc.iso) = 4d9e511daf41dbc44f4506958f0e70f9</div> <div style="margin:0px;min-height:16px"><br></div><div style="margin:0px">vs. from <a href="http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.04/release/MD5SUMS" target="_blank">http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.04/release/MD5SUMS</a></div> <div style="margin:0px;min-height:16px"><br></div><div style="margin:0px">4d9e511daf41dbc44f4506958f0e70f9 *lubuntu-14.04-alternate-powerpc.iso</div><div style="margin:0px;min-height:16px"><br></div><div style="margin:0px"> Extracting the relevant text on matching lines:</div><div style="margin:0px;min-height:16px"><br></div><div style="margin:0px">4d9e511daf41dbc44f4506958f0e70f9</div><div style="margin:0px">4d9e511daf41dbc44f4506958f0e70f9</div> <div style="margin:0px;min-height:16px"><br></div><div style="margin:0px">An exact match.</div><div style="margin:0px;min-height:16px"><br></div><div style="margin:0px;min-height:16px"><br></div><div style="margin:0px;min-height:16px"> <br></div><div style="margin:0px">So fsadm is missing from the command shell environment that one has access to for rescue-powerpc use of lubuntu-14.04-alternate-powerpc.iso burned to a CD. Without it various lvm activities can not be done from that environment. But that environment appears to be intended to allow the activities one can not do with a live file system. The configuration just happened to miss covering the specific type of use.</div> <div style="margin:0px;min-height:16px"><br></div><div style="margin:0px;min-height:16px"><br></div><div style="margin:0px">On Thu Jul 3 11:23:13 UTC 2014 Isreal had written...</div><div class=""><div style="margin:0px;min-height:16px"> <br></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">Hi,</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier"> Did you do a md5sum of the image file you downloaded?</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">It is an odd thing we sometimes forget that can cause really wacky</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier"> problems in my experience.</div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier;min-height:16px"><br></div></blockquote><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">On 07/02/2014 10:22 PM, Mark Millard wrote:</div> <div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">><i> But apt-get is also not available from that shell prompt and </i></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier"> ><i> find / -name apt-get -print</i></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">><i> does not find anything.</i></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier"> ></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">><i> Similarly for sudo. (One is already "root" in this CD-boot context so</i></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier"> ><i> I doubt sudo is ever required.)</i></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">><i> Notably</i></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier"> ></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">><i> find / -name 'lvr*' -print</i></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier"> ><i> finds the relevant /sbin/lvr* lvm programs just fine. But fsadm is</i></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">><i> missing.</i></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier"> ></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">><i> ===</i></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">><i> Mark Millard</i></div></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier;color:rgb(4,46,238)"> <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">><i> </i><a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users" target="_blank"><i>markmi at dsl-only.net</i></a><i> <mailto:</i><a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users" target="_blank"><i>markmi at dsl-only.net</i></a><i>></i></span></div> <div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">><i> On Jul 2, 2014, at 8:12 PM, Andre Rodovalho <</i><a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(4,46,238)"><i>andre.rodovalho at gmail.com</i></span></a></div> <div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier;color:rgb(4,46,238)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">><i> <mailto:</i><a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users" target="_blank"><i>andre.rodovalho at gmail.com</i></a><i>>> wrote:</i></span></div> <div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">><i> The command is*sudo apt-get install **lvm2*</i></div><div class=""><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier"> ></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">><i> Sorry about the first email...</i></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier"> ></div></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">><i> 2014-07-03 0:08 GMT-03:00 Andre Rodovalho <</i><a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(4,46,238)"><i>andre.rodovalho at gmail.com</i></span></a></div> <div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier;color:rgb(4,46,238)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">><i> <mailto:</i><a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users" target="_blank"><i>andre.rodovalho at gmail.com</i></a><i>>>:</i></span></div> <div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">><i> do a *sudo apt-get install fsadm*</i></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier"> ></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">><i> 2014-07-02 22:44 GMT-03:00 Mark Millard <</i><a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(4,46,238)"><i>markmi at dsl-only.net</i></span></a></div> <div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier;color:rgb(4,46,238)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">><i> <mailto:</i><a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users" target="_blank"><i>markmi at dsl-only.net</i></a><i>>>:</i></span></div> <div class=""><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">><i> Selecting to boot the CD for "rescue-powerpc", selecting to</i></div> <div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">><i> not mount a root file system from the PowerMac, selecting to</i></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">><i> get to the shell, and typing</i></div> <div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">><i> find / -name fsadm -print</i></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier"> ></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">><i> does not find a fsadm anywhere.</i></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier"> ><i> Naturally enough typing "fsadm -h" at the command prompt</i></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">><i> results in the message</i></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier"> ></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">><i> /bin/sh: fsadm: not found</i></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier"> ></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">><i> ===</i></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">><i> Mark Millard</i></div></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier"> ><i> markmi at <a href="http://dsl-only.net" target="_blank">dsl-only.net</a> <</i><a href="http://dsl-only.net/" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(4,46,238)"><i>http://dsl-only.net/</i></span></a><i>></i></div> <div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">><i> On Jul 2, 2014, at 6:08 PM, Phill Whiteside <</i><a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(4,46,238)"><i>PhillW at PhillW.net</i></span></a></div> <div class=""><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">><i> <mailto:</i><a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(4,46,238)"><i>PhillW at PhillW.net</i></span></a><i>>> wrote:</i></div> <div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">><i> can you report the outcome of </i></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier"> ></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">><i> fsadm -h</i></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier"> ><i> Regards,</i></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">><i> Phill.</i></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier"> ></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">></div></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">><i> On 3 July 2014 01:52, Mark Millard <</i><a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(4,46,238)"><i>markmi at dsl-only.net</i></span></a></div> <div class=""><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">><i> <mailto:</i><a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(4,46,238)"><i>markmi at dsl-only.net</i></span></a><i>>> wrote:</i></div> <div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">><i> I wanted to release about 45G Bytes of free space from a</i></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier"> ><i> root file system that is in lvm and so I tried to use a CD</i></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">><i> built from lubuntu-14.04-alternate-powerpc.iso to do</i></div> <div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">><i> lvreduce --resizefs. Unfortunately the attempted use of</i></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">><i> lvreduce reports that it could not find fsadm (and fsadm</i></div> <div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">><i> is not in the live file system's /sbin/ with the lv* tools).</i></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">></div> <div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">><i> Part of the purpose for "rescue-powerpc" (and the like)</i></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">><i> should be to do operations that can not be done with a</i></div> <div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">><i> live (root) filesystem. Looks like this specific kind of</i></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">><i> example of that has been missed.</i></div> <div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">><i> I have not checked if other processor families have</i></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier"> ><i> similar issues for their "alternate" CDs or if the issue</i></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">><i> is specific to lubuntu vs. existing in other ubuntu</i></div> <div style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Courier">><i> variants. 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