<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=iso-8859-1"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div><div><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 14px; font-family: Georgia;"><div style="margin: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0px;">[Resent with much history removed to make the message smaller so no moderator involvement is needed.]</div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 16px;"><br></div>Thanks for the pointers Phill.</div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 16px;"><br></div><div style="margin: 0px;">I have submitted the issue as <span style="color: #323333">Bug #1338888</span>. (Turned out that I had an old account from</div><div style="margin: 0px;">some 2008 activity, not that I remember what it was about.) I'm perfectly happy to leave</div><div style="margin: 0px;">1338888's status, importance, and the like to those with more context than I currently</div><div style="margin: 0px;">have. (My first submittal --unless I made one in 2008.)</div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 16px;"><br></div><div style="margin: 0px;">I'm going to be away from the iMac G3 for a while so I'll not being trying any alternatives</div><div style="margin: 0px;">for that time.</div><div><br></div></div><div apple-content-edited="true">
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<br><div><div>On Jul 7, 2014, at 9:23 PM, Phill Whiteside <<a href="mailto:PhillW@PhillW.net">PhillW@PhillW.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir="ltr">Hi Mark,<div><br></div><div>I'm sure the others will scream at me, but as 14.04 desktop is over sized, it will not fit on a CD. Alternate obviously does not have LiveCD option.... However..... have a try of the 12.04 lubuntu desktop PPC, which should have the ability to boot as LiveCD and have the ability to invoke LVM stuff.</div>
<div><br></div><div>head over to <a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/PreviousReleases#A12.04">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/PreviousReleases#A12.04</a> and see if it works for you. If that link is slow / not working, then feel free to use my mirror which for 12.04 is at <a href="http://phillw.net/isos/lubuntu/precise/">http://phillw.net/isos/lubuntu/precise/</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>I'm not a PPC person, but I do know lubuntu is your refuge and I will do what ever I can to help out.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for helping on PPC,</div><div><br></div><div>Phill.</div></div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 8 July 2014 04:15, Mark Millard <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:markmi@dsl-only.net" target="_blank">markmi@dsl-only.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex; position: static; z-index: auto;">
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Hi.</div><div style="margin:0px;min-height:16px"><br></div><div style="margin:0px">My original report to the list was informational (and cross checking) since I did not find any references to the issue when I looked around. My report did not even ask for help.</div>
<div style="margin:0px;min-height:16px"><br></div><div style="margin:0px">Installing from the same .iso installed fsadm and the lvm software just fine and I also had no trouble setting up my lvm configuration in the first place. I've also been able to do everything that I wanted that is allowed for use on a already existing lvm context with / coming from the lvm live. (My use is at the simple end of things for lvm so far.)</div>
<div style="margin:0px;min-height:16px"><br></div><div style="margin:0px">But one can not do an action that includes a reduce (shrink) to a live / (the root file system). So I tried to do that from the rescue-powerpc selection from the CD (so booted from different root). This is what I was reporting as not covered by the rescue-powerpc use of the CD. (apt-get is also missing from that context.) It may be that lvm's coverage for rescue-powerpc is just not to be complete due to space requirements and the relative priorities for what can be done fairly directly booted from that media via that selection. Such is not for me to say.</div>
<div style="margin:0px;min-height:16px"><br></div><div style="margin:0px">Quoting <a href="http://askubuntu.com/questions/124465/how-do-i-shrink-the-root-logical-volume-lv-on-lvm" target="_blank">http://askubuntu.com/questions/124465/how-do-i-shrink-the-root-logical-volume-lv-on-lvm</a> ...</div>
<div style="margin:0px;font-family:Times;color:rgb(50,51,51);min-height:18px"><br></div><div style="margin:0px;font-family:Times;color:rgb(50,51,51)"><blockquote type="cite">It is not possible (to my knowledge) to shrink a filesystem while it is mounted, so we need to do the actual resizing from a Live CD.</blockquote>
</div><div style="margin:0px;min-height:16px"><br></div><div style="margin:0px">As far as I can tell this is still true. For my old iMac G3 context larger media does not work (the internal slot-drive is a CD-only one). I've not got around to setting up yet another alternate boot technique to some other root file system in order to do the reduction from where I can get everything required in place. At some point I will take the time to deal with doing that.</div>
<div style="margin:0px;min-height:16px"><br></div><div style="margin:0px">I've not yet created an account to submit bug reports with. It may be a bit before I get to that.</div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<br><div><div>On Jul 7, 2014, at 7:13 PM, Phill Whiteside <<a href="mailto:PhillW@PhillW.net" target="_blank">PhillW@PhillW.net</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div>I recall that desktop PPC went over size. Julien took a sword to the alternate in order to ensure it is CD sized. In my humble opinion, people wanting to use LVM's should know how to install the tools needed. (I use LVM's, run 11 KVM machines and also SEL :D ).</div>
<div><br></div><div>Do feel free to raise a bug report, I'm hopeful that it is not a massive job for Julien to add in the library for 14.04.1, but I also do not want to peck him to the point he gets fed up of PPC. </div>
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