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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">The archive with install script, and
      the instructions for the couple manual mods are at <a
href="http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1823915&page=14&p=13036809#post13036809">http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1823915&page=14&p=13036809#post13036809</a><br>
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      I currently don't have anything else on my to-do list for it.  But
      I did detail a few things below that people with more expertise
      could lead the way on.<br>
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      On 5/30/2014 3:27 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Sounds like you are making progress, feel free to
        give me a 'ping' when you want some testing done I've got VM's
        that I can 'blow up' as and when needed :)
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        <div>Regards,</div>
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        <div>Phill.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On 30 May 2014 20:24, John Hupp <span
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              <div>One follow-up: I hadn't been thinking about the use
                of the terminal box decoration images.  Those are now
                set up so that the whole screen is painted over (at
                least up to about 2560x1600) with the single color when
                a menu selection is made (no lingering title or bottom
                labels).
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                    On 5/29/2014 8:11 PM, John Hupp wrote:<br>
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                    <div>As I began trying to tame the terminal box, I
                      was working from the info in Towheed's Definitive
                      Guide: Workarounds For Known Bugs: Apply a
                      background image to the terminal window.<br>
                      <br>
                      But as far as I can tell that info no longer
                      accurately applies to the beta version of grub2
                      installed in Lubuntu 14.04 (and probably all
                      current *buntu's), and I have not been able to
                      determine what governs current behavior.<br>
                      <br>
                      So I changed aim and used a plain-color desktop
                      image and terminal box background.  The result is
                      a box that seamlessly covers the boot menu and
                      progress bar, but leaves the title and bottom
                      labels untouched.  (I couldn't get a screen grab
                      of that to post since the VM doesn't offer screen
                      EDID info to grub, and grub responds by scaling
                      the term box to cover almost the entire screen. 
                      I'd love to duplicate the effect on real hardware
                      but don't know a way.)<br>
                      <br>
                      Screen shots, an archive (~ 750KB) with an install
                      script, and notes on independence from resolution
                      and aspect ratio are in a new post at <a
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href="http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1823915&page=14&p=13036809#post13036809"
                        target="_blank">Post your Grub2 Themes</a>.  I
                      also detail there a couple easy manual mods needed
                      after the install script runs if you want to match
                      my results.<br>
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                      You can also see above it in post 138 the last
                      screen shots of my stalled effort to use the
                      Lubuntu wallpaper.<br>
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                      Earlier in the quest, I found that
                      grub-theme-starfield is in the repos.  It is the
                      default grub2 theme.  But under Lubuntu (and
                      perhaps all current *buntu's), it does not work
                      after installation without some knowledgeable
                      mods.  And even when I got it working, I found
                      that the dark-font menu items were almost
                      invisible against the dark background.<br>
                      <br>
                      Even as is, I'll venture to say that my theme is
                      an improvement over starfield.  So sure, it would
                      be great if someone with expertise edited the
                      current install script to eliminate my
                      supplemental manual mods to provide for easier
                      installation.<br>
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                      Even better if someone made a package.<br>
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                      Even better yet if we could someone get current
                      info on terminal box behavior.  Then it might be
                      possible to smoothly use the Lubuntu wallpaper. 
                      (I grant that in a dual-boot environment with
                      Windows there is an argument for something more
                      neutral.  But the correct info would be useful
                      anyhow.)<br>
                      <br>
                      Rafael & Co. might also have something to say
                      about artistic touches.<br>
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                      On 5/25/2014 11:02 AM, John Hupp wrote:<br>
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                      <div>I have set desktop-image in theme.txt and
                        GRUB_BACKGROUND in /etc/default/grub to both
                        point at the Lubuntu wallpaper file, and in my
                        VM testing I don't see a terminal box.  It may
                        be that it appears but blends so nicely that
                        it's not apparent.<br>
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                        But the terminal box was apparent on real
                        hardware when I was testing other things (before
                        I started work on my theme), so that's why
                        further testing is still on my to-do list.<br>
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                        If the terminal box appearance seems like a
                        problem on real hardware, then I plan on looking
                        at the further-refined hack nicely detailed in
                        Towheeds Definitive Guide.  It provides more
                        precision for the overlaid box.  See the section
                        "Workarounds For Known Bugs - Apply a background
                        image to the terminal window."  I think you
                        already know about this guide, but for general
                        reference an archive of the guide can be
                        downloaded from <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://ubuntuone.com/2EslXTLj5s2zzbeYKx17wJ"
                          target="_blank">http://ubuntuone.com/2EslXTLj5s2zzbeYKx17wJ</a><br>
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                        Setting terminal-box to a non-existent file set
                        seemed to have the result in the VM that the
                        terminal box did not appear.  But on real
                        hardware with that setting, the default black
                        box appeared.  It may be that the VM just does
                        not display the terminal box at all for some
                        reason.<br>
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                        In any case, no, no way to truly make it not
                        appear, but some hacks that may be workable
                        enough.<br>
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                        On 5/25/2014 1:01 AM, Israel wrote:<br>
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                        <div>Keep up the Good work!!<br>
                          The terminal box is unavoidable
                          unfortunately... however I have 'overcome
                          this' by adding a grub background that says
                          'Loading' So it at least looks decent...  That
                          terminal box is why I gave up theming Grub....
                          I wish there was a way to hide it.<br>
                          Does anyone here know if you are able to hid
                          it by anymeans?<br>
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                          On 05/24/2014 04:20 PM, John Hupp wrote:<br>
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                          <div>I updated my screen shots at <a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1823915&page=14&p=13031738#post13031738"
                              target="_blank">Post your Grub 2 Themes</a><br>
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                            Still on my to-do list:<br>
                            _ Lubuntu icon<br>
                            _ LightDM shade of white?<br>
                            _ Test on other hardware to see if an ugly
                            terminal box appears<br>
                            _ Install script<br>
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                            AFAIK, you can't style unselected boot menu
                            items, so there is a limit to matching with
                            the LightDM login screen.<br>
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                            On 5/23/2014 7:32 PM, John Hupp wrote:<br>
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                            <div>You can see a shot of the
                              work-in-progress at <a
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href="http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1823915&page=14&p=13031738#post13031738"
                                target="_blank">Post your Grub 2 Themes</a><br>
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                              I have some other things on the to-do list
                              also, but I would be happy not only to
                              have a Lubuntu icon, but also to know what
                              shade of white is used in the LightDM
                              login box.<br>
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