<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>Hello :)<br><br></div>I've been keeping an eye on this.<br><br></div>For 2 days, update-notifier has not reported anything. just checked today with apt-get and got this from a simulation on upgrade :<br>
<br>The following packages will be upgraded:<br> apport apport-gtk python3-apport python3-problem-report<br> python3-software-properties software-properties-common<br> software-properties-gtk<br><br></div>Looking here : <a href="http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/phased-updates.html">http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/phased-updates.html</a>, I see software-propoerties has currently been offered to 90% of users and is on day 2, I'll wait for a day or two.<br>
</div>The other one that I have installed and could be upgraded is apport, but it is being blocked due to <a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/1282349">https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/1282349</a><br>
</div>The apport bug seems fixed, but the package offered by apt-get is still 2.14.1 :<br><br>Inst apport [2.14.1-0ubuntu3] (2.14.1-0ubuntu3.1 Ubuntu:14.04/trusty-updates [all])<br><br></div>when the fix is in package apport - 2.14.2-0ubuntu1, only available in utopic for now (I'm on trusty).<br>
<br></div>So we'll see.<br></div>Cheers,<br></div>b.<br><div><div><div><br><br><div><div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 9:36 PM, John Hupp <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lubuntu@prpcompany.com" target="_blank">lubuntu@prpcompany.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">On 5/17/2014 2:57 PM, brendanperrine wrote:<br>
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On Sat, 17 May 2014 14:37:38 -0400<br>
John Hupp <<a href="mailto:lubuntu@prpcompany.com" target="_blank">lubuntu@prpcompany.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Some fresh experiences today:<br>
<br>
I booted the laptop, manually ran just "update-notifier" from the<br>
terminal (and yes, I did forget to add " &"), and Software Updater<br>
appeared almost immediately to offer a big batch of updates.<br>
<br>
Rather inexplicable, but running with it just to see what would happen,<br>
I rebooted without installing anything, added update-notifier to Default<br>
applications for LXSession: Autostart tab, and rebooted again. The<br>
update-notifier changelog indicates that it is supposed to poll every<br>
180 seconds. For good measure I gave it 10 minutes, but Software<br>
Updater did not appear. I rebooted 10 times and waited 10 minutes each<br>
time, all with the same no-show results.<br>
<br>
I also booted the desktop on which I installed 14.04 a couple days ago.<br>
I did not manually run update-notifier but instead set up the<br>
update-notifier workaround in Default applications for LXSession. I<br>
rebooted and *Software Updater almost immediately offered 140+ MB of<br>
updates*, which I installed.<br>
<br>
Back on the laptop, I gave it an Ethernet connection and rebooted 5 more<br>
times, waiting 10 minutes each time. Still no updates offered.<br>
<br>
I removed the update-notifier entry from Default applications for<br>
LXSession: Autostart, pulled the Ethernet plug, switched the WiFi back<br>
on, and rebooted. I ran "update-notifier &" from a terminal and waited<br>
10 minutes. No results. I did this 5 times.<br>
<br>
Then I did the same as above but ran "dbus-launch update-notifier &"<br>
instead. I did this 3 times with no results.<br>
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<br>
The only hypothesis I can see from the above is that<br>
update-notifier/manager will offer the updates once (per day?), and if<br>
you don't install them it will not offer them again.<br>
<br>
Could this be?<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
I think in software and updates from the menu is set to check daily by default.<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div></div>
I see that now, and that may be the simple and good explanation for what appeared to be bad behavior. Though update-notifier runs as a daemon and polls every 180s, it is update-manager that actually offers the updates, so clearly there is some mechanism between them (which I have asked about here before).<br>
<br>
Software-properties-gtk (aka Preferences: Software & Updates) is supposed to "manage the repositories that you install software from," and its manpage describes it simply as a software sources list editor, but via its Updates tab it also seems to govern update-notifier/manager.<br>
<br>
Since it cannot be set to check more often than daily, it looks like I'll have to wait until tomorrow to confirm whether it works, but I'll manually add update-notifier back to the Autostart list.<br>
<br>
If that succeeds, then there really is no deep problem, only the problem with /etc/xdg/autostart that also affects nm-applet, etc., for which we have the workaround (and for which a true fix is in the works).<br>
<br>
Thanks, Brendan!<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
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