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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Rafael:<br>
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It would be good to have all of the relevant information initially
within the bug-report. <br>
<br>
I will wait to submit it until you report back on what you find
out in your additional tests. <br>
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I think you are saying that the customization wouldn't work in
Lubuntu even if I developed a custom theme (per Nio's
suggestion). <br>
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- Aere<br>
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On 05/04/2014 05:55 AM, Rafael Laguna wrote:<br>
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problem here aren't the themes, is the XSettings daemon. Each
environment has its own: XFCE has xfce4-settings-manager,
Gnome has gnome-settings-daemon, etc.</div>
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style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">The
package you're looking for is lxsession. LXDE has a standalone
version of the daemon, called lxsession-daemon which loads
independent config files. I need to do more tests to see if
this is working.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">But
I insist, this "bug" is not theme related.</div>
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Lubuntu Artwork Team<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2014-05-04 5:11 GMT+02:00 Israel <span
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<div>On 05/03/2014 08:03 PM, Aere Greenway wrote:<br>
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<div>On 05/03/2014 06:48 PM, Israel wrote:<br>
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<div>On 05/03/2014 07:26 PM, Aere Greenway wrote:<br>
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<div>Rafael:<br>
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I will report it as a bug. What package
should it be reported against? <br>
<br>
Unfortunately, it appears to be one more step
down the Ubuntu road of taking away
customization. So I'm doubtful anything will
come of it. But it means a lot to me, so I
will report it, nevertheless. <br>
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It may well be the end of color
customization. <br>
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- Aere<br>
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On 05/03/2014 05:33 PM, Rafael Laguna wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">More
clues. I've tested on a few environments.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">1.
Lubuntu does no colorize at all. Nor fgtk2
nor gtk3.</div>
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style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">2.
XFCE (using Shimmer's gtk-theme-config)
DOES colorize only gtk2 (pretty normal, as
usually gtk3 is not able to do this)</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">3.
Mate. The same as XFCE, only colorizes
gtk2 apps (I insist, gtk3 apps cannot be
colorized as is, they need to be tweaked
via .gtk-3.0 RC).</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">4.
Ubuntu hasn't this feature anymore.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">So,
as colorization works in every environment
as eexpected, the problem is ours. But
themes react fine in other desktops, so
there's no problem at all on engines or
themes RC files.</div>
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style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">So,
once tested all steps, there's only one
left: the LXDE session settings daemon.
Shall we declare it as a bug?</div>
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Lubuntu Artwork Team<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2014-05-04 0:23
GMT+02:00 Rafael Laguna <span dir="ltr"><<a
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style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">Yes,
I can't customize Lubuntu-default,
experimental Box, or even Adwaita.
Now I'm testing Xubuntu themes and
they seem to be un-colorizable too.
Something's happening to the Desktop
Settings daemon. It's not theme or
engine related. It also affects
GTK3.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">Let
me try more tests on other
environments and I hope to have an
answer or, at least, a clue.</div>
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Lubuntu Artwork Team<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2014-05-03
22:37 GMT+02:00 Aere Greenway <span
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I encountered a problem with
Lubuntu 14.04 which (to me) is
a show-stopper. I'm sure it
isn't as important to others.<br>
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I have my own peculiar style
of customized colors. One of
the main reasons my primary
system uses Lubuntu is because
of the color-customization,
which retains the ease-of-use
that was present in Ubuntu
11.04.<br>
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I upgraded a Lubuntu 13.10
system for which the colors
worked fine. After the upgrade
to 14.04, the color
customization does not appear
in any windows I have tried
(and I have tried a lot of
them).<br>
<br>
Even in the window where you
change the appearance with
custom colors, it shows that
it remembers the colors I
specified, but the specified
colors are not used in the
window in which I specify
them.<br>
<br>
It appears that
color-customization can be
done in the preferences
settings, but the color
customization you specify is
universally ignored.<br>
<br>
Does anyone have any idea of
how to make
color-customization work in
Lubuntu 14.04?<span><font
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Of course you can always make your own theme, so
it will never be dead. I have made a few themes
for the WM, and the panel is still customizable
fortunately.<br>
@Aere, Rafael did say the bug was in lubuntu
session settings daemon.<br>
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Israel:<br>
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Is there something in the repository you install to
build your own theme? If so, what is the package
name I should use (or search-for)? <br>
<br>
Using Synaptic Package Manager, searching for
'lubuntu', I do not see anything that resembles
"lubuntu session settings daemon". Do you know what
the package name is for it? <br>
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Aere, it depends on what kind of theme you are making. If
you want the widgets (buttons, progress bars etc...) that
is GTK, which I don't know a whole lot about.<br>
If you are talking about window borders, etc.. that is
openbox. Openbox themes are simple xml files, that you
can edit by hand (or programatically if you fancy).<br>
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Before you go downloading Geany for some Openbox fun try
out:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://box-look.org/"
target="_blank">http://box-look.org/</a><br>
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You can also browse for GTK themes:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://xfce-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=100"
target="_blank">http://xfce-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=100</a><br>
(If I remember Lubuntu might support GTK3 also... but I
don't know for 100% sure off the top of my head)<br>
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I hope this helps <br>
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I think the package with the issue is related to the
lxsession package.... but Rafael, or one of the developers
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