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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/03/2014 08:03 PM, Aere Greenway
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/03/2014 06:48 PM, Israel wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/03/2014 07:26 PM, Aere
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I will report it as a bug. What package should it be
reported against? <br>
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Unfortunately, it appears to be one more step down the
Ubuntu road of taking away customization. So I'm doubtful
anything will come of it. But it means a lot to me, so I
will report it, nevertheless. <br>
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It may well be the end of color customization. <br>
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- Aere<br>
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On 05/03/2014 05:33 PM, Rafael Laguna wrote:<br>
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style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">More
clues. I've tested on a few environments.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
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Lubuntu does no colorize at all. Nor fgtk2 nor gtk3.</div>
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style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">2.
XFCE (using Shimmer's gtk-theme-config) DOES colorize
only gtk2 (pretty normal, as usually gtk3 is not able to
do this)</div>
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style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">3.
Mate. The same as XFCE, only colorizes gtk2 apps (I
insist, gtk3 apps cannot be colorized as is, they need
to be tweaked via .gtk-3.0 RC).</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">4.
Ubuntu hasn't this feature anymore.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">So,
as colorization works in every environment as eexpected,
the problem is ours. But themes react fine in other
desktops, so there's no problem at all on engines or
themes RC files.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">So,
once tested all steps, there's only one left: the LXDE
session settings daemon. Shall we declare it as a bug?</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2014-05-04 0:23 GMT+02:00 Rafael
Laguna <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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I can't customize Lubuntu-default, experimental
Box, or even Adwaita. Now I'm testing Xubuntu
themes and they seem to be un-colorizable too.
Something's happening to the Desktop Settings
daemon. It's not theme or engine related. It also
affects GTK3.</div>
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me try more tests on other environments and I hope
to have an answer or, at least, a clue.</div>
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Aere Greenway <span dir="ltr"><<a
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I encountered a problem with Lubuntu 14.04
which (to me) is a show-stopper. I'm sure
it isn't as important to others.<br>
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I have my own peculiar style of customized
colors. One of the main reasons my primary
system uses Lubuntu is because of the
color-customization, which retains the
ease-of-use that was present in Ubuntu
11.04.<br>
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I upgraded a Lubuntu 13.10 system for which
the colors worked fine. After the upgrade to
14.04, the color customization does not
appear in any windows I have tried (and I
have tried a lot of them).<br>
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Even in the window where you change the
appearance with custom colors, it shows that
it remembers the colors I specified, but the
specified colors are not used in the window
in which I specify them.<br>
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It appears that color-customization can be
done in the preferences settings, but the
color customization you specify is
universally ignored.<br>
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Does anyone have any idea of how to make
color-customization work in Lubuntu 14.04?<span><font
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Of course you can always make your own theme, so it will never
be dead. I have made a few themes for the WM, and the panel is
still customizable fortunately.<br>
@Aere, Rafael did say the bug was in lubuntu session settings
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Israel:<br>
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Is there something in the repository you install to build your own
theme? If so, what is the package name I should use (or
search-for)? <br>
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Using Synaptic Package Manager, searching for 'lubuntu', I do not
see anything that resembles "lubuntu session settings daemon". Do
you know what the package name is for it? <br>
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Aere, it depends on what kind of theme you are making. If you want
the widgets (buttons, progress bars etc...) that is GTK, which I
don't know a whole lot about.<br>
If you are talking about window borders, etc.. that is openbox.
Openbox themes are simple xml files, that you can edit by hand (or
programatically if you fancy).<br>
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Before you go downloading Geany for some Openbox fun try out:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://box-look.org/">http://box-look.org/</a><br>
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You can also browse for GTK themes:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://xfce-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=100">http://xfce-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=100</a><br>
(If I remember Lubuntu might support GTK3 also... but I don't know
for 100% sure off the top of my head)<br>
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I hope this helps <br>
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I think the package with the issue is related to the lxsession
package.... but Rafael, or one of the developers may have a better
idea what part is actually the problem.<br>
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