<div dir="ltr">Further good news :)<div> </div><div>Julien is going to try his best to pop into the meeting tomorrow [1] for 5 - 10 mins to give those attending an update as we head towards the final push for our 1st LTS.</div> <div> </div><div>Regards,</div><div> </div><div>Phill.</div><div>1. #ubuntu-offtopic at 14:00 UTC Sunday 30th March</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">On 29 March 2014 14:26, Nio Wiklund <<a href="mailto:nio.wiklund@gmail.com" target="_blank">nio.wiklund@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Phill, It was correct to tell me I was doing wrong, but it could have been more diplomatic. Maybe other people were also angry, and complained to you, and made you swing the axe ;-) But don't worry. I will keep working with Ubuntu flavour software to help running middle-aged and old computers. I intend to supply information, that can be posted at the Lubuntu wiki, and I really think it is better to only supply such information and stay away from editing the wiki pages. Best regards Nio 2014-03-29 14:43, Phill Whiteside skrev: <div class="im HOEnZb">> Hi Nio, > > Sergio has been busy with real life (it happens). One of the pluss's of > having sub-teams is that they can discuss things without people who have > no interest being 'spammed' with heart felt discussions :) The minus > side is that if you are not on that mailing list, you have no idea as to > if a sub-team is actively discussing things, or not. > > The last email that was sent out to general group from wiki team was for > people to proof read the +1 pages that Sergio has prepared. Also noted > have been the results of things like OBI as to what resources it needs > to install etc. > > The edits you have been made have not been deleted, they are still there > :) I apologise as it seems my phrasing was not what it should have been. > you are, indeed, a valued and hard working member of lubuntu. > > Regards, > > Phill. > > > On 29 March 2014 11:21, Ali Linx <<a href="mailto:ali.linux@amjjawad.net">ali.linux@amjjawad.net</a> </div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ali.linux@amjjawad.net">ali.linux@amjjawad.net</a>>> wrote: > > > On 03/29/2014 11:24 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: > > Hi Phill and everybody else, > > > Hello Nio, > > > > 1. I'm very sorry to have made you upset. > > > 2. I will not push this issue, but stay back and let other > people manage > the Lubuntu wiki pages. > > > 3. But I want to explain why I did what I did: > > Initiated by you Phill, I checked what was minimum RAM for Trusty. I > sent that report to the Lubuntu community (as an email). > > There was a discussion, that focused not so much about the test > result, > but on what should be changed in the wiki page paragraph about > system > requirements. > > There was no sign of life from you Phill, or from Iberę or from > Sergio, > and the discussion ended, and I thought it meant that people > were happy > with the 'second wording'. > > So I edited that into the wiki page and made a sub-page, > according to > suggestions during the discussion. > > > IMHO, what you have done is not really a disaster as it has been > explained. The lack of communication, as always, is the major > serious issue that Lubuntu Community lacks and needs. I couldn't > tell clearly unless I joined other communities and saw by my very > eyes how things is happening on the other side of the world :) > > You have done a great job. Let me tell you something, you're the > type of contributor that Lubuntu seriously need. I do appreciate > each and everything you have done to Lubuntu, Ubuntu and FOSS. I > admire your work. Excellent job and please keep that up. This is my > personal opinion. > > Now, the only problem IMHO was being a bit in hurry to edit the > page. If Lubuntu operates in the way of Team Leaders must approve > before anything else then you have done everything you could. What > you needed to do is waiting for someone to say "Okay" or "Approved". > Since this community sadly lacks this approach, you wanted to be > extra helpful and have done everything yourself. This is what > happened in my eyes. > > This is what I have been doing mostly in two years with Lubuntu, > sometimes at least. Ironically, Phill himself was always saying : > "Don't ask, DO!". So, I'm not sure what is wrong?! > > You have done everything and IF and ONLY IF Wiki Pages of Lubuntu > must be edited by ONE and ONLY person, that is the TL of the Wiki > area, then maybe that is the only mistake you did by doing someone's > else job which is not a disaster IMHO. > > This is how I see the situation. > > > > > Once again, I'm very sorry to have made you upset and will stay away > from the Lubuntu wiki pages. > > > While I know you're so nice and friendly and I admire that, I > disagree with you here. I can't force you of course to help on that > area but I'd rather suggest to discuss with the rest of the team and > please, don't stay away from the Wiki pages. > > What Phill may have forgotten is: The Whole Wiki of Ubuntu and the > flavors need A LOT of help and love. That is a solid fact everyone > who is truly involved with Ubuntu and its flavors should know it. We > need more people to help. Editing a Wiki Page is a piece of cake. > Keeping that page up-to-date is a huge work that not everyone can do > it. You're one of those who can do that. We don't want to lose you. > Please! > > > Best regards > Nio > > > Thank you! > > > > > 2014-03-29 03:09, Phill Whiteside skrev: > > Hi folks, > > it seams to have missed people's minds that anything other a > correction > of syntax or a link that has expired has to be checked with > the TL for > the wiki area. > > There are test areas about and our current guy has spent > hours prepping > up for 14.04. > > To clear things, he will be attending #lubuntu-offtopic as > part of a > meeting that will be registered and logged. At that point > you can ask > him about the work that is being done by that team to have > all the wiki > ready for 14.04. > > This may be a useful session for people who have been making > a mess of > the wiki 13.10 instead of the 14.04 pages to attend. > > There is a very good reason we have a TL for wiki... Major > changes go > through that person and when in doubt that person can check > with our > head of dev. > > 14:00 UTC 30th March on #lubuntu-offtopic > > I expect all of you who have discussing lay out etc. to attend. > > Regards, > > personal secretary to Sergio, > > Phill. > > > > -- > <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw</a> > > > > > > > > -- > <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw</a> </div></div></blockquote></div> <div> </div>-- <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw</a> </div>