<html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 03/27/2014 01:08 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: </div> <blockquote cite="mid:5333EA88.70803@gmail.com" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">2014-03-27 09:39, JM skrev: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">On Thu, 27 Mar 2014 12:29:56 +0400 Ali Linx <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ali.linux@amjjawad.net"><ali.linux@amjjawad.net></a> wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">That said, as per my +3 years endless tests, the Recommended RAM for Lubuntu 'must be' IMHO = 512MB If you will ever mention 'minimum' then you should mention too that: "please note that your machine will not work as expected after installing." Let's be 'extra' clear when we're dealing with our users if we do care about them. This is 'very' important IMHO. To me, it is totally non-sense to even waste time to test that on less than 256MB RAM simply because your machine will not handle one open tab say Facebook or Gmail. As for YouTube, you should mention a huge red label note that those with less than 512MB should forget YouTube and watching movies. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> Hi, I clearly agree with that, which might in some cases not be even enough, as the hardware when old would often need some checks and some care. Regards, Mélodie </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap="">Hi everybody,</pre> </blockquote> Hi my friend, <blockquote cite="mid:5333EA88.70803@gmail.com" type="cite"> <pre wrap=""> The text we are discussing is like this now ----- System Requirements We have done many tests and we've found out that Lubuntu can be installed on a Pentium II or Celeron system with 128 MB of RAM, but such a system would not perform well enough for daily use. With 256MB - 384MB of RAM, the performance will be better and the system will be more usable. With 512MB of RAM, you don't need to worry much. The default "Desktop" installer requires 384-800 MB of RAM (depending on selected options.) If you have problems, please use the "Alternate" installer. ----- and it is part of the web page <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu</a> which was last edited 2013-11-26 12:48:42 by dale-visser </pre> </blockquote> I'm aware of this as I was one of those who participated with the old tests and wrote that too. That is why, I'm stating now that that was a mistake and it should be corrected. <blockquote cite="mid:5333EA88.70803@gmail.com" type="cite"> <pre wrap=""> I think we must change it. 1. Lubuntu Core Trusty works with 128 MB RAM, but not standard Lubuntu Trusty. And Lubuntu Core needs at least 256 MB to work reasonably well, but not for browsing bloated web pages. So it is mis-leading to state that Lubuntu can be installed with 128 MB of RAM. It might be true for some old version, but it is not true for Lubuntu Trusty. 2. With zRAM, the Lubuntu desktop installer does not need more than 384 MB RAM. Before zRAM was used, it might need 700-800 MB for some complicated installations. 3. Let us consider if we should specify the amount of RAM necessary for the alternate installer. I think it is better to specify it. 4. Let us consider if we should also display the alternatives OBI and 9w to install Lubuntu Core, which is lighter than standard Lubuntu. Remember that there are many old computers with 256 MB RAM! </pre> </blockquote> Why to confuse and make things complicated? KISS (Keep It Simple and Short). That said, IMHO, the text should read: Lubuntu Recommended System Requirement (RAM) is 512MB RAM. You might be able to install the system below that range but please be advised that you might not get a working system as expected - example: browsing the Internet might be very slow and/or not usable. The above text is for ALL kind of levels so whether you're super new to Linux/Lubuntu or Super Advance/GURU user, you will not have hard time to understand that. Then, you can create a new page or pararph to explain the 'advance' options to install Lubuntu on special requirements and/or cases where you could use the same text that you send on your original email. By doing that, you will provide the FULL picture of installing Lubuntu and explain each and every case. Newcomers should not click or go to the advance section. Those who have enough experience can indeed explore that section. Playing it safe better than sorry and face the fire of so many complaints, etc. Above all, you will not give any false/wrong hope or promise to anyone :) This is my simple and clear suggestion for the sake of each and every user of Lubuntu 'and' Lubuntu Team. <blockquote cite="mid:5333EA88.70803@gmail.com" type="cite"> <pre wrap=""> Best regards Nio </pre> </blockquote> Thank you! <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- Ali/amjjawad <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad</a></pre> </body> </html>