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      On 01/24/2014 03:42 AM, W.J.Heeringa wrote:<br>
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          customization I have done with my system is totally by GUI
          means.  The one I know of, is that I made the panel a bit
          higher than normal (32 pixels). </span></i><br>
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      Thanks, this is in any case an improvement! The desktops are shown
      in the panel now. It is still not perfect, sometimes a white (but
      smaller) bar is drawn over them.<br>
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      Best regards,<br>
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      Wilbert<br>
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      <span>On 23-01-14, <b class="name">Aere Greenway </b>
        <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Aere@Dvorak-Keyboards.com"><Aere@Dvorak-Keyboards.com></a> wrote:</span>
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                      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 01/23/2014 06:23
                        AM, W.J.Heeringa wrote:<br>
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                        type="cite">Dear all,<br>
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                        I upgraded from Lubuntu 13.04 to 13.10 by
                        performing the following command:<br>
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                        This affected also the desktop switcher (I hope
                        this is the right term), see the pictures
                        attached. I used to have eight desktops as can
                        be seen in the picture.<br>
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                        However, when starting an application, the
                        desktop switcher completely disappears. In
                        Lubuntu 13.04 and earlier the desktop switcher
                        was permanently visible.<br>
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                        Does anyone know how I can achieve having the
                        desktop switcher permantly visible in Lubuntu
                        13.10 as well?<br>
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                        Best regards,<br>
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                        Wilbert<br>
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                      Wilbert:<br>
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                      I have seen something similar with my Lubuntu
                      13.10 system.  <br>
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                      Any customization I have done with my system is
                      totally by GUI means.  The one I know of, is that
                      I made the panel a bit higher than normal (32
                      pixels).  I don't use command-line means of
                      customization, because in my experience, I forget
                      how to do it, so it doesn't get done on the next
                      release.  <br>
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                      Normally, the two desktops I have appear in the
                      task-bar (panel) switcher, and work without any
                      problems.  <br>
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                      But sometimes, one (or both of them) get covered
                      by the taskbar background.  <br>
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                      I recognized it because I have configured my panel
                      to be a bit larger (in the vertical dimension)
                      than the default, and the panel background that
                      obscures it doesn't go all the way to the bottom
                      (it seems to assume a normal-height panel).  <br>
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                      I don't know what triggers the problem.  It just
                      occasionally 'happens'.  <br>
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                      I can make it go away by clicking on any desktop
                      panel entries that are obscured.  <br>
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      <span><span>Hmmm... I am not sure where to go from here....<br>
          I am running 14.04, and I always do a fresh install... so I
          have never experienced this issue...<br>
          Of course I keep my /home in a separate partition and have had
          problems that can be fixed by moving the configurations.... 
          Have you checked to see if anyone has reported this bug (on
          launchpad, or elsewhere)?<br>
          Maybe someone else will have something to add here...<br>
          But, I should ask are you using other DE(like xfce, or unity,
          kde, etc..) as well as LXDE(Lubuntu-desktop)?<br>
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          When you restarted lightdm, I should have mentioned (sorry, I
          forgot) that you should drop to a tty to do it (Ctrl + Alt +
          F1) so the error you saw was probably related to doing that
          from a terminal...  sometimes I forget people don't use the
          terminal and tty as often as I do, and may not naturally go to
          a tty for those kinds of commands... I hope I will remember
          that next time :)<br>
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          The only other off-the-wall thought I have is that it could be
          something in gconf/dconf... but that is just a shot in the
          dark, as it seems to me that it is either a bug in the code, a
          conflicting old config file, or some weird artifact from
          13.04...</span><br>
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