<html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <pre wrap="">This morning I installed apps from the Education and Games catagories I'd actually installed before (for my youngest) all from the Lubuntu Software Center (so all in the repos) and added the icon line from the shortcut. I noticed all the misbehaving icons are .xpm files (and I believe all 32x32px). Now, there are plenty of .xpm files for other apps that show fine, but I thought this was interesting and hopefully useful information. The icons I added to the list below all show up roughly twice the size of the others in each sub-menu they appear in. So here is the list so far: *Not in repos:* Greenfoot *in the Repos:* meterbridge alsamixergui (not too bad) Childsplay Icon=logo_cp_32x32.xpm Dr.geo Icon=drgeo_32x32.xpm Linux Letters and Numbers Icon=lletters.xpm Mobile Atlas Creator Icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/mobile-atlas-creator/mobac.xpm Eric </pre> <blockquote cite="mid:mailman.5506.1387203205.1272.lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/attachments/20131216/d0d6baea/attachment-0001.html"><https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/attachments/20131216/d0d6baea/attachment-0001.html></a> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 08:01:33 -0600 From: Israel <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:israeldahl@gmail.com"><israeldahl@gmail.com></a> To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Subject: Re: A few Lubuntu Menu things... Message-ID: <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:52AF07BD.6010802@gmail.com"><52AF07BD.6010802@gmail.com></a> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Maybe we can simply make new icons for the box icon theme, if there isn't a simple way to edit the icon size. But I think imagemagik can resize things... or at least I think that is what the packaging files use to make icons. If you could remember (or find) which ones caused problems, we could start a list of icons that are unruly, and work on getting some made up for the Box icon theme, so at least the programs in the repos wont look awful. I too remember installing some stuff for my kids that looked bad, too... but I can't remember what it was. I also remember some of the music programs I have used had weird icons. I am starting the list with the two programs I have installed currently that are larger than the usual size. So here is the list so far: *Not in repos:* Greenfoot *in the Repos:* meterbridge alsamixergui (not too bad) On 12/16/2013 12:47 AM, Eric Bradshaw wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">I'd like to chime in with my agreement on the icon sizes in the menu before the message below gets lost too far down in the shuffle. There were certain games (and I believe maybe an educational app or two) I had originally installed for my kids that I then removed specifically because of icon size. It was more than just not aesthetically pleasing; my kids would think (know?) there was something "wrong" with the computer. If I hadn't been installing a slew of stuff at once (and none of them were "must have" apps) - and my own kids were the only people I was worried about installing for; I would've made my own icon (or at least resized them) for these. I would think what you have to go through sometimes for .desktop entry files and icon creation would be pretty scary for a newcomer. Eric ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2013 10:35:52 -0600 From: Israel <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:israeldahl@gmail.com"><israeldahl@gmail.com></a> To: lubuntu user list <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com"><lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com></a> Subject: A few Lubuntu Menu things... Message-ID: <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:52AC88E8.9050607@gmail.com"><52AC88E8.9050607@gmail.com></a> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey everyone, there are a few issues I'd like to address. The first is the Ubuntu SDK and the Core Apps that can be installed. The menu does not show all the Core Apps. It does show the browser, however. I cannot seem to find any of the other applications (i.e. the calculator). I posted a bug about it, but as it received no attention it expired... <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1200780">https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1200780</a> The second is the menu... when an app has a HUGE icon, the menu becomes ridiculous. I have installed an app called Greenfoot, in hopes of getting my kids into programming one day. The icon makes the menu take up approximately 1/4 of the screen. I think there should be a way to limit the size of icons in the menu, or force icons to display at a standard size. There are ways to do this in the rules file for debian packages when making them, so it seems like adding something to the menu updating script could address this problem. I am not sure how to do this, or if it is truly possible... but I figured I should post something here, as there has been a lot of talk about converting Windows users. And while these issues aren't show stoppers... having an icon force the menu to take up a large part of the screen would make the user feel like they are using a buggy OS, that lacks polish. I know using the box icon theme will address this issue for most available apps (thank you whoever made the penguin card game icons look so much better... Rafael?), but Ubuntu is the most popular GNU/Linux distro and so many third party apps make a deb package for Ubuntu that can be downloaded and installed from their website (i.e. Greenfoot). To be fair Unity also shows the greenfoot icon as a huge blob, but it limits the size shown, and the issue is not present in the side panel, only the dash when searching for it. People who come to Lubuntu/Ubuntu will expect an experience similar to their previous OS, so having something to convert icons to the appropriate size. psuedocode: get(app.iconSize){ if (iconSize > maxIconSize) {resize(iconSize);} else{return;} } </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> </pre> </blockquote> <div class="moz-signature">-- Thank You, God Bless, Computers4Christians <a href="http://computers4christians.org/">http://www.Computers4Christians.org/</a> </div> </body> </html>