<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>Ibere,<br></div> Thank you for your response. I did not know this about Julien, however, I suspected something as such. The community does seem to be self-regulating for the most part but perhaps some type of consensus decision making style Release Manager may be of benefit. <br>
</div> No, I have not, yet, read Jono Bacon's book-its on my list. I have read Eric Raymond's CatB and Butler Shaffer's Boundaries of Order( a study of the nature of human organizations and institutions). <br>
</div> But, my original query still goes unanswered( and perhaps there is no answer)? <br><br></div>Best Regards,<br></div>David <br><div><div><br><br><div><h1 class="" rel="title"><br></h1><div><h1 lang="en"><span dir="auto"><br>
</span></h1></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 7:48 PM, Iberê Fernandes <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ibere.fernandes@gmail.com" target="_blank">ibere.fernandes@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">2013/11/22 David Yentzen <<a href="mailto:dbyentzen@gmail.com">dbyentzen@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
<div><div class="h5">> Hi Julien<br>
> Thanks for your detailed email. I understand there is not enough<br>
> infrastructure currently to support training, mentoring, and performing many<br>
> changes prior to 14.04 roll out. I am mostly concerned with the future<br>
> development of our community. Since I am not only new to Lubuntu( and Linux)<br>
> but also have no computer background( all biological sciences and economics<br>
> here), I rely on your opinion and input. Are there any steps, you know of,<br>
> that we as a community can take now to attract and promote the technical<br>
> human power we need for a growing future?<br>
><br>
><br>
> Sincerely,<br>
> David Yentzen<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 9:11 PM, Dale Visser <<a href="mailto:dale.visser@gmail.com">dale.visser@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> I've been quite busy with family stuff and work today, but thanks for the<br>
>> replies. I'll take a look over at Lubuntu Software Center, and see if there<br>
>> are any issues I could see myself tackling. I've never used Bazaar or the<br>
>> Launchpad issue trackers, so there will be some learning curve involved.<br>
>><br>
>> Best regards,<br>
>> Dale<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Sent from my Windows Phone<br>
>> ________________________________<br>
>> From: Jackson Doak<br>
>> Sent: 11/19/2013 2:01 PM<br>
>><br>
>> To: Aere Greenway<br>
>> Cc: lubuntu user list<br>
>><br>
>> Subject: Re: Roadmap for 14.04<br>
>><br>
>> dale: I'm not sure what lubuntu specific stuff is java, maybe just find<br>
>> some general bugs. As mentioned above, the lubuntu software centre is<br>
>> python, so any bugfixes for that would be great<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:45 AM, Aere Greenway <<a href="mailto:Aere@dvorak-keyboards.com">Aere@dvorak-keyboards.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> On 11/19/2013 03:08 AM, Julien Lavergne wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> 2013/11/18 Iberê Fernandes <<a href="mailto:ibere.fernandes@gmail.com">ibere.fernandes@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Regarding:<br>
>>>> > Since the next release is a “all-you-can-fix” roadmap, maintaining it<br>
>>>> > will<br>
>>>> > be IMO a waste of time. If you want to work on something specific,<br>
>>>> > talk to<br>
>>>> > me by mail or IRC (gilir on #lubuntu).<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I agree it'll be a waste of time if we may be moving to LXQt on 14.10<br>
>>>> cycle.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Hence, does 14.04 has to remain LTS yet? I mean, should we drop the<br>
>>>> LTS idea for 14.04 once:<br>
>>>> - LXDE is dying;<br>
>>>> - we're missing devs and LTS would demand support together with the<br>
>>>> non-LTS releases.<br>
>>>> - LXQt seems to be not ready for 14.04<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> I'm not sure it will be quite ready for 14.10 either (we have to change<br>
>>> all the GTK applications to Qt version, it's quite a lot of work to test the<br>
>>> integration of all of them). But with a 14.04 LTS, we can release a<br>
>>> "not-so-stable-and-finished" 14.10 Qt version, because we still can advise<br>
>>> people to keep 14.04. The goal also, is to focus on maintaining the LTS<br>
>>> version, and development the Qt version until it's stable enough to<br>
>>> completely switch to it. That should make the maintenance possible (1<br>
>>> version to maintain, 1 to develop).<br>
>>><br>
>>> Regards,<br>
>>> Julien Lavergne<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Julien:<br>
>>><br>
>>> This approach makes good sense to me. I agree, for what it's worth.<br>
>>><br>
>>> --<br>
>>> Sincerely,<br>
>>> Aere<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
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</div></div>David,<br>
<br>
Julien is not dealing with governance anymore since sometime in<br>
2012... that's why it'd be nice to have a Release Manager to do (or<br>
sort of do) the governance thing.<br>
<br>
So Julien is focused on development.<br>
<br>
Have you ever read The Art of Community, by Jono Bacon (Ubuntu<br>
Community Manager)?<br>
<br>
The 2nd edition is availalbe (free) at<br>
<a href="http://www.artofcommunityonline.org/get/" target="_blank">http://www.artofcommunityonline.org/get/</a><br>
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