<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 6:06 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:amjjawad@gmail.com" target="_blank">amjjawad@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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On 11/06/2013 07:55 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:<br>
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Kindly have a read at: <br>
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<a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre</a><br>
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I have updated this Wiki Page with some new information
which a bit more in details than here: <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved#Lubuntu_Community" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved#Lubuntu_Community</a><br>
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Myself and some 'active' members of Lubuntu have discussed
lately about the activities of the team in general. We have
noticed there are some people who remain silent for months
without any notice and then show up suddenly then disappear
again. We noticed that the list of members need to be
cleaned up so the Team Leaders of Lubuntu know at least who
is contributing and ask them for help and who is not. We
have noticed that the overall activities have been much less
and while this could be normal in regular releases at this
stage, it is NOT for this cycle - why? simply because
Lubuntu 14.04 is going to be an LTS Release and that
requires lots of 'TEAM' work and I insist, TEAM WORK.<br>
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Also, we <i>(active members of the team) </i>came to
understand that previously, some tasks/roles were being
handled by only 1-2 people if not only one. This has proved to
add unbelievable stress and huge burden over the shoulder of
those people. And, in most times, when they were in need to
help and support, they got very little bit of it. THIS must
NOT be the case in this cycle. And, I am sorry to be extra
honest here but I will simply leave Lubuntu once and for all
if I will continue to feel that this is a few people job
rather than a Community and Team work. <br>
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Team work = "We must all have a great sense of responsibility
and not let things happen because everyone takes the comfortable
view that someone else is looking after it. Someone else isn't
looking after it."<br>
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<div>Lubuntu needs you for the coming 6 months
and even after releasing Lubuntu 14.04 LTS,
whether it will be supported for 2 years or
more Lubuntu will still need you. Please,
don't let Lubuntu down! <br>
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<div>You may wonder what is the big deal behind
all that but for myself and some other
members, this is called Loyalty and being in
love with Lubuntu which will make you dedicate
some of your own time to do things and most of
the time, do more than what you are supposed
to do. Lubuntu has a special magic that not
only can breathe new life into an old
semi-dead machine but can take you far away
and open your mind and change your life.<br>
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<div>Before the Real Hard and Tough Work starts
for 14.04, it is a very good time to discuss
such issues before 'active' people get busy
with testing, bugs, etc and won't have time to
stuff like that :)<br>
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<a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre</a><br>
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<div>Hopefully, we can get this list updated
soon!<br>
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<div>Because, we do need to know who is
contributing and participating and who is not.
At least, for our information and I see
nothing wrong with that :)</div>
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<a href="https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lubuntu-brainstorming/+spec/team-activity" target="_blank">https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lubuntu-brainstorming/+spec/team-activity</a><br>
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<div>Thank you!<br>
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<a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/Projects" target="_blank">My Projects</a><br>
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On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Aere Greenway <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Aere@dvorak-keyboards.com" target="_blank">Aere@dvorak-keyboards.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
Ali:<br>
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As I indicated in my last reply to you, at present, I am very
busy, and only contribute occasionally. <br>
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If the criteria for being on this list as being able to put in
more time, then by all means, feel free to remove me from this
e-mail list. <br>
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</blockquote></div>Hi Aere,<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I am sorry if my email wasn't clear for you. Allow me to explain in easy, simple and clear way :)<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">1- I am afraid you are confused between the mailing list as a way to communicate with everyone and being active as a contributor :) I am sure I have explained that to you months ago but I'd be glad to explain that again. I am sure I was extra clear about the two groups that our community consists of: Users and Contributors. For Users, they are not required to be active. For Contributors, they 'are required' to be active :) <br>
<br><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre#Lubuntu_Community" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre#Lubuntu_Community</a><br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">
2- NO ONE will remove ANYONE. This is a Mailing List for everyone and as long as we are following these guidelines: <a href="http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailing-lists" target="_blank">http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailing-lists</a> - then everything is fine. No one is going to remove you, Aere :)<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">3- This is a usual routine we do from time to time. What is special this time is we will go for an LTS release and we do need to re-evaluate everything to avoid the previous mistakes and adopt the best approach to not only have a rock solid system but a strong team that is capable of whatever task/challenge it may have of face :)<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I hope this is clear and if not, please let me know and I will be very glad to re-explain.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">If you think you are busy then for sure, you can simply add your name here: <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre#Lubuntu_Users" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre#Lubuntu_Users</a><br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Before, we had only a list of actual members and active contributors but now, Users can also add their names :)<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Thank you!<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">
@Phill, Lars and others who updated their entries: THANK YOU SO MUCH :D<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Have a great time everyone!<div><br clear="all"><br>-- <br><div dir="ltr"><br>
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</div></div></div><span></span></div></div><div class="im">On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 4:41 AM, Sergio Meneses <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sergioandresmeneses@gmail.com" target="_blank">sergioandresmeneses@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Hi Sergio,<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I am glad you agree. It breaks my heart to see only few are still active and it makes ms sad a lot to see this community has a problem that should be addressed and fixed: Lack Of Communications! <br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I am sorry, I don't feel that we are working as a team anymore.<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>We are beginning with a new cycle and members, this things needs time ;) <br>
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</div><div class="gmail_extra">1- I am so busy with Ubuntu GNOME Team (<a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/UbuntuGNOME-Team" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/UbuntuGNOME-Team</a>)<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">
2- I am no longer interested to do a lot alone all by myself.<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>you are not alone<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Lubuntu is a community and there should be a team work.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I do know who is active. They are a huge support. They are helping me and helping this community to remain active and move forward. But, they are few. They know who they are, I don't need to mention names :) THANK YOU for your support.<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I will be around if you guys need me!<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Good Luck :) <br clear="all"></div><div class="im"><div class="gmail_extra"><br>-- <br><div dir="ltr"><div><div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(204,0,0)">Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."</span><br>
Best Regards,<br></div><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad" target="_blank">amjjawad</a><br></div><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/AreasOfInvolvement" target="_blank">Areas of Involvement</a><br></div><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/Projects" target="_blank">My Projects</a><br>
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