<div dir="ltr">2013/10/30 Nio Wiklund <<a href="mailto:nio.wiklund@gmail.com" target="_blank">nio.wiklund@gmail.com</a>> <div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"> Hi Ali, Reply inline Best regards/Nio <div class="im"> On 2013-10-30 13:21, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Nio Wiklund <<a href="mailto:nio.wiklund@gmail.com">nio.wiklund@gmail.com</a> </div><div class="im">> <mailto:<a href="mailto:nio.wiklund@gmail.com">nio.wiklund@gmail.com</a>>> wrote: > > "unsupported packages" means unsupported by Canonical. > > These packages are/were supported by some other person, organisation or > company, and there might be packages where the development/support is > discontinued. Canonical does not promise anything about the support. > > Best regards > Nio > > > Hello Nio, > > Is there any official Document/Wiki/Link that refer to the same > explanation above? </div><a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq#What_packages_and_repositories_are_maintained_.28supported.29.3F" target="_blank">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq#What_packages_and_repositories_are_maintained_.28supported.29.3F</a> <div class="im">> > And, to me, it appears that "status --show-all" is a tricky command that > can NOT really tell you in an easy/direct way about your system being > supported or not. > > This is from Lubuntu 13.04 amd64 (3.8.0-32-generic #47-Ubuntu SMP Tue > Oct 1 22:35:23 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux) and it is > really confusing. > > You have 1200 packages (84.8%) supported until January 2014 (9m) > You have 12 packages (0.8%) supported until July 2014 (9m) > > You have 0 packages (0.0%) that can not/no-longer be downloaded > You have 203 packages (14.3%) that are unsupported > > Are you trying to say that, for example in my case, the 203 packages are > NOT from Canonical and they are not responsible of this? then how would > someone tell whether his/her system is secure or not? </div>For example abiword, gnumeric and VLC are developed and maintained by others than Canonical. And the Lubuntu specific software is developed and maintained or cherry-picked by 'our' developers, not Canonical. <div><div class="h5"> > "Unsupported: > abiword abiword-common ace-of-penguins alsamixergui audacious > audacious-plugins audacious-plugins-data blueman cabextract > chromium-browser chromium-browser-l10n chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra > elementary-icon-theme extlinux ffmpegthumbnailer > flashplugin-installer galculator gdebi gdebi-core gecko-mediaplayer > giblib1 gnome-mplayer gnome-paint gnome-system-tools gnome-time-admin > gnumeric gnumeric-common gpaint gpicview gtk-recordmydesktop > gtk2-engines-pixbuf guvcview hardinfo indicator-application-gtk2 > leafpad liba52-0.7.4 libabiword-2.9 libass4 libaudclient2 libaudcore1 > libavcodec-extra-53 libavutil-extra-51 libbinio1ldbl libbluray1 > libbs2b0 libcddb2 libcompfaceg1 libcrystalhd3 libcue1 libdca0 > libdirac-encoder0 libdirectfb-1.2-9 libdvbpsi7 libdvdnav4 libdvdread4 > libebml3 libexo-1-0 libexo-common libexo-helpers libfaad2 > libffmpegthumbnailer4 libfluidsynth1 libfm-data libfm-gtk-bin > libfm-gtk-data libfm-gtk3 libfm3 libgda-5.0-4 libgda-5.0-common > libgmlib1 libgmtk1 libgmtk1-data libgoffice-0.10-10 > libgoffice-0.10-10-common libguess1 libiso9660-8 libkate1 > libloudmouth1-0 libmad0 libmatroska5 libmenu-cache2 libmms0 > libmodplug1 libmono-addins-gui0.2-cil libmono-addins0.2-cil > libmowgli2 libmp3lame0 libmpcdec6 libmpeg2-4 libmpg123-0 > libmusicbrainz3-6 libnet-dbus-perl libnspr4-0d libobrender27 libobt0 > libonig2 liboobs-1-5 libopencore-amrnb0 libopencore-amrwb0 > libopenjpeg2 libopus0 libots0 libresid-builder0c2a libsdl-image1.2 > libsidplay2 libssh2-1 libtar0 libts-0.0-0 libtwolame0 libupnp6 > libvcdinfo0 libvlc5 libvlccore5 libvo-aacenc0 libvo-amrwbenc0 > libwebp4 libwv-1.2-4 libx264-123 libxaw3dxft6 libxfce4ui-1-0 > libxfce4util-common libxfce4util6 libxfconf-0-2 libxml-twig-perl > libxvidcore4 libzvbi-common libzvbi0 lightdm-gtk-greeter > lubuntu-artwork lubuntu-artwork-13-04 lubuntu-core > lubuntu-default-session lubuntu-default-settings lubuntu-desktop > lubuntu-icon-theme lubuntu-lxpanel-icons lubuntu-restricted-addons > lubuntu-restricted-extras lubuntu-software-center lxappearance > lxappearance-obconf lxinput lxkeymap lxlauncher lxmenu-data lxpanel > lxpanel-indicator-applet-plugin lxrandr lxsession lxsession-data > lxsession-edit lxshortcut lxtask lxterminal mplayer2 mtpaint mypaint > mypaint-data obconf openbox p7zip-full pcmanfm pidgin-microblog pinta > plymouth-theme-lubuntu-logo plymouth-theme-lubuntu-text > python-pysqlite2 python-support python-xklavier recordmydesktop scrot > skype skype-bin:i386 sylpheed sylpheed-doc sylpheed-i18n > sylpheed-plugins synaptic syslinux-themes-debian > syslinux-themes-debian-wheezy system-tools-backends transmission > tsconf ttf-mscorefonts-installer unetbootin unetbootin-translations > unrar vlc vlc-data vlc-nox vlc-plugin-notify vlc-plugin-pulse xfburn > xfce-keyboard-shortcuts xfce4-notifyd xfce4-power-manager > xfce4-power-manager-data xfconf xpad xpaint xscreensaver > xscreensaver-data zsync" > > If you have a look at these, you will come to know most if not all are > shipped by default with Lubuntu. While 13.04 has not yet reached its > EOL, how can we really tell whether our system is secure or not? > > There must be another way to confirm unless someone has a good and > logical explanation of what is going on! </div></div>"Don't use it after the EOL ..." <div class="im"> > -- > Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." > Best Regards, </div>> amjjawad <<a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad</a>> > Areas of Involvement <<a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/AreasOfInvolvement" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/AreasOfInvolvement</a>> > My Projects <<a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/Projects" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/Projects</a>> <div class=""><div class="h5"> -- Lubuntu-users mailing list <a href="mailto:Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users</a> </div></div></blockquote></div> <div> </div>Our friend vasa1 added some more useful info at: </div><div class="gmail_extra"><a href="http://askubuntu.com/questions/368329/unsupported-software">http://askubuntu.com/questions/368329/unsupported-software</a> </div><div class="gmail_extra"> </div><div class="gmail_extra"> "</div><div class="gmail_extra"><p style="margin:0px 0px 1em;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:14px;vertical-align:baseline;clear:both;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:UbuntuRegular,Ubuntu,'Bitstream Vera Sans','DejaVu Sans',Tahoma,sans-serif;line-height:18px"> >From a non-comprehensive use of <code style="margin:0px;padding:1px 5px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:rgb(238,238,238);font-family:'Ubuntu Mono','Ubuntu Beta Mono A',Consolas,'Bitstream Vera Sans Mono','Courier New',Courier,monospace;color:rgb(34,34,34)">apt-cache show package_name</code>, it appears that supported packages, found with <code style="margin:0px;padding:1px 5px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:rgb(238,238,238);font-family:'Ubuntu Mono','Ubuntu Beta Mono A',Consolas,'Bitstream Vera Sans Mono','Courier New',Courier,monospace;color:rgb(34,34,34)">ubuntu-support-status --show-supported</code>, are in the main pool. <p style="margin:0px 0px 1em;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:14px;vertical-align:baseline;clear:both;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:UbuntuRegular,Ubuntu,'Bitstream Vera Sans','DejaVu Sans',Tahoma,sans-serif;line-height:18px"> For example, running <code style="margin:0px;padding:1px 5px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:rgb(238,238,238);font-family:'Ubuntu Mono','Ubuntu Beta Mono A',Consolas,'Bitstream Vera Sans Mono','Courier New',Courier,monospace;color:rgb(34,34,34)">apt-cache show zenity</code>, a supported package has this line: <code style="margin:0px;padding:1px 5px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:rgb(238,238,238);font-family:'Ubuntu Mono','Ubuntu Beta Mono A',Consolas,'Bitstream Vera Sans Mono','Courier New',Courier,monospace;color:rgb(34,34,34)">Filename: pool/</code><code style="margin:0px;padding:1px 5px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:rgb(238,238,238);font-family:'Ubuntu Mono','Ubuntu Beta Mono A',Consolas,'Bitstream Vera Sans Mono','Courier New',Courier,monospace;color:rgb(34,34,34)">main</code><code style="margin:0px;padding:1px 5px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:rgb(238,238,238);font-family:'Ubuntu Mono','Ubuntu Beta Mono A',Consolas,'Bitstream Vera Sans Mono','Courier New',Courier,monospace;color:rgb(34,34,34)">/z/zenity/zenity_3.8.0-1_amd64.deb</code> and: <code style="margin:0px;padding:1px 5px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:rgb(238,238,238);font-family:'Ubuntu Mono','Ubuntu Beta Mono A',Consolas,'Bitstream Vera Sans Mono','Courier New',Courier,monospace;color:rgb(34,34,34)">Supported: 9m</code> <p style="margin:0px 0px 1em;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:14px;vertical-align:baseline;clear:both;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:UbuntuRegular,Ubuntu,'Bitstream Vera Sans','DejaVu Sans',Tahoma,sans-serif;line-height:18px"> But, running <code style="margin:0px;padding:1px 5px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:rgb(238,238,238);font-family:'Ubuntu Mono','Ubuntu Beta Mono A',Consolas,'Bitstream Vera Sans Mono','Courier New',Courier,monospace;color:rgb(34,34,34)">apt-cache show thunar</code>, an unsupported package, has: <code style="margin:0px;padding:1px 5px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:rgb(238,238,238);font-family:'Ubuntu Mono','Ubuntu Beta Mono A',Consolas,'Bitstream Vera Sans Mono','Courier New',Courier,monospace;color:rgb(34,34,34)">Filename: pool/</code><code style="margin:0px;padding:1px 5px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:rgb(238,238,238);font-family:'Ubuntu Mono','Ubuntu Beta Mono A',Consolas,'Bitstream Vera Sans Mono','Courier New',Courier,monospace;color:rgb(34,34,34)">universe</code><code style="margin:0px;padding:1px 5px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:rgb(238,238,238);font-family:'Ubuntu Mono','Ubuntu Beta Mono A',Consolas,'Bitstream Vera Sans Mono','Courier New',Courier,monospace;color:rgb(34,34,34)">/t/thunar/thunar_1.6.3-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb</code> and no mention of a support period.<p style="margin:0px 0px 1em;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:14px;vertical-align:baseline;clear:both;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:UbuntuRegular,Ubuntu,'Bitstream Vera Sans','DejaVu Sans',Tahoma,sans-serif;line-height:18px"> This, from <a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu" rel="nofollow" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(150,45,12)">What are Repositories?</a>, is relevant: <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 10px;padding:10px 10px 1px;border:0px;font-size:14px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:rgb(244,244,244);quotes:none;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:UbuntuRegular,Ubuntu,'Bitstream Vera Sans','DejaVu Sans',Tahoma,sans-serif;line-height:18px"> The repository components are: Main - Officially supported software. Restricted - Supported software that is not available under a completely free license. Universe - Community maintained software, i.e. not officially supported software. Multiverse - Software that is not free. " Best regards, Iberê </blockquote></div></div>