<html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/7/2013 7:04 PM, John Hupp wrote: </div> <blockquote cite="mid:5202D287.4080705@prpcompany.com" type="cite"> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/7/2013 4:26 PM, Aere Greenway wrote: </div> <blockquote cite="mid:5202AD7B.9040509@Dvorak-Keyboards.com" type="cite">On 08/07/2013 01:28 PM, John Hupp wrote: <blockquote type="cite">On 8/7/2013 3:11 PM, Aere Greenway wrote: <blockquote type="cite">On 08/07/2013 12:08 PM, John Hupp wrote: <blockquote type="cite">There was this helpful bug report on file at <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1178982">http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1178982</a>. It described behavior on Dell PC's with integrated Intel graphics, in which Adobe Flash Player would display only with shades of purple and green in a horizontally compressed window (or at least that's how I would describe what I see on a Dell Dimension 2400). The work-around (Comment #1) was to change the Xorg acceleration method to UXA. But the bug was closed because the OP didn't have possession of the machine anymore. I have not been able to find an active refile of the bug. Is there one? (I'd like to vote it up!) --John </blockquote> John: I reported that it affects me, as well. </blockquote> Hi, Aere. I did too -- in the above bug. But that bug is now closed and presumably getting no attention from developers. Are you just saying that you reported in the above bug that it affects you too, or are you referring to a different bug report? --John </blockquote> John: Sorry - I was just thinking that the bug was not getting attention because of lack of impact on users. Not being able to even watch YouTube videos on these machines (in addition to the choppy color gradients), led me to conclude that Linux is abandoning all of these machines because of their older Intel graphics. I have a newer machine (a Dell Inspiron 620) with Intel graphics that works just fine. But all of my older Dell machines have the problem. So I said a few appropriate words (not appropriate to repeat here), and looked into getting NVIDIA cards for the machines I need to go forward into the future with. Where it was the kernel developers abandoning these machines, it seems I have no choice. What can Lubuntu do if the graphics of all these machines has been dumped by the kernel developers (those same developers who would not even consider a minor change for supporting fake-PAE)? Eventually, I will get the useful parts from these machines, and discard them. I can still use them for testing my new software (for the time being). Who knows what machines they will condemn to the trash heap in the next release... I was sort of hoping against all odds that Ubuntu's new graphics handler might support the graphics of these machines, but given their track-record, the odds are definitely against it. </blockquote> For what it's worth, I have just found that the workaround detailed in Comment #1 in the bug report (<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1178982">http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1178982</a>) does work. On my system there was no existing /etc/X11/xorg.conf, so I created it and added the specified lines as the sole content of the file. The colors and the proper window size were restored. This Dell has an Intel 845G chipset, so this workaround may fix this problem on any motherboard with the same chipset (or even other Intel chipsets that use the same Intel driver). <hr size="2" width="100%"> Verging strictly off-topic, but remaining with the question of getting Flash to work decently well: On this former XP machine with a Celeron 2.4 GHz and 1 GB RAM, YouTube videos in the default window size and playing at 360p seemed to perform normally. Likewise, video from Hulu can be set to a lower quality to help assure continuous play. But video from Vimeo can only be set to HD-Off (if HD is available). And with video from the broadcast network sites CBS.com, NBC.com and ABC.com, you can only change screen size. So it seems that videos from Vimeo, CBS, NBC and ABC offer very little accommodation for lower-spec setups. And relatedly, I find that video that plays OK on a Windows PC with a dual core Intel E2200 @ 2.20 GHz -- even with just 1.3 Mbps download on my DSL service -- plays badly on the 2.4 GHz Celeron using the same Internet connection. So in this case processing power is more important than Internet connection speed. 2.4 GHz is the minimum required spec for Flash (the last I knew), but perhaps that merely means that you'll be able to play *something* (like YouTube or Hulu videos at a lower-quality setting), not that you'll be able to play everything. Does anyone know if there is a way to lower the quality settings for sites like Vimeo, CBS, NBC and ABC, even if there is no quality-setting tool in the player interface? (Or does anyone differ with the assessment I offer above?) </blockquote> I forgot to include, however, that the bug workaround messes up the login screen (LightDM). You can make out an entry box that one assumes is for the password entry, but everything else is largely unidentifiable. So as a workaround it leaves a lot to be desired, unless we can also figure out how to fix the login screen. </body> </html>