<html><head></head><body data-blackberry-caret-color="#00a8df" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); line-height: initial;"><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">First of all Stallmann is right when it comes to free software and Ubuntu shipping with some proprietary code. But this things most distribution offer (like binary blobs for wifi cards). Therefore the fsf has its own list of GNU/Linux distributions that are really free software without those binary blobs. </div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">The second thing Stallmann talks about is the spyware feature we might have heard about in the unity shopping lense. It's a bad thing and also technically poorly integrated. It's whole purpose is earning money. Convenience is not given 100 percently as you don't have the option to only turn off the shopping feature but still be able to use online search results. There is only an all or nothing option. Advanced users might know how to remove this shopping lense but all in all I agree with Stallmann here. Shipping it by default is a malicious feature a spyware. </div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Lubuntu however is not affected as we don't use unity :P</div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">When it comes to non free firmware binary blobs even Lubuntu ships them as we share the kernel and drivers with Ubuntu. The rest of the core system is pretty much identical with debian so there is nothing fishy there. </div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">As for Ubuntu Phone OS of course it will use proprietary drivers for almost everything on the phone. Besides openMoko I don't know a single phone only running with free drivers without binary firmware blobs. As for the spying feature we will see. The smartphone itself is a spying tool, as it constantly sends data to a cellurar tower. But I hope the search options will be a liitle bit more configurable so that you don't default use network bandwith when you want to search for a song on your phone.</div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div> <div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br style="display:initial"></div> <div style="font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"></div> <table width="100%" style="background-color:white;border-spacing:0px;"> <tbody><tr><td colspan="2" style="font-size: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <div id="_persistentHeader" style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; font-family: Tahoma, 'BB Alpha Sans', 'Slate Pro'; font-size: 10pt;"> <div><b>Von: </b>Ali Linx (amjjawad)</div><div><b>Gesendet: </b>Donnerstag, 1. August 2013 10:10</div><div><b>An: </b>lubuntu user list</div><div><b>Betreff: </b>Richard Stallman Talks About Ubuntu</div></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(186, 188, 209); border-top-width: 1pt; font-size: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"></div><br><div id="_originalContent" style=""><div dir="ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div><h5 class="" style="font-size:11px;color:rgb(0,0,0);margin:0px 0px 5px;padding:0px;word-break:break-word;word-wrap:break-word;font-weight:normal;font-family:'lucida grande',tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif;line-height:15.555556297302246px"> <span class="" style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:13px;line-height:1.38"><span class=""><div id="id_51fa15a41fc467619102155" class="" style="display:inline"><a href="http://youtu.be/CP8CNp-vksc" rel="nofollow nofollow" target="_blank" style="color:rgb(59,89,152)">http://youtu.be/CP8CNp-vksc</a></div> </span></span></h5><div><span class="" style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:13px;line-height:1.38"><span class=""><br></span></span></div><div><span class="" style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:13px;line-height:1.38"><span class="">I must admit that I'm shocked. My first impression is bad and it is a shame to hear/watch such thing for an Open Source Community and for a Community like Ubuntu, there MUST be some clear and honest answers. I do not use Ubuntu but other variants. How safe am I??? and how bad this might be?</span></span></div> <div><span class="" style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:13px;line-height:1.38"><span class=""><br></span></span></div><div><span class="" style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:13px;line-height:1.38"><span class="">If someone can enlighten us, it is much appreciated. I'm not happy of what I have heard from Stallman.</span></span></div> <div><span class="" style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:13px;line-height:1.38"><span class=""><br></span></span></div><div><span class="" style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:13px;line-height:1.38"><span class="">For those who does not know Stallman:</span></span></div> <div><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman" rel="nofollow nofollow" target="_blank" style="font-size:13px;line-height:1.38;font-family:'lucida grande',tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(59,89,152)">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<span class="" style="display:inline-block"></span>Richard_Stallman</a><br> </div><div><span class="" style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:13px;line-height:1.38"><span class=""><h5 class="" style="font-size:11px;color:rgb(0,0,0);margin:0px 0px 5px;padding:0px;word-break:break-word;word-wrap:break-word;font-weight:normal;font-family:'lucida grande',tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif;line-height:15.555556297302246px"> <span class="" style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:13px;line-height:1.38"><span class=""><div id="id_51fa15a41fc467619102155" class="" style="display:inline"><span class="" style="display:inline"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Project" rel="nofollow nofollow" target="_blank" style="color:rgb(59,89,152);text-decoration:none">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<span class="" style="display:inline-block"></span>GNU_Project</a><br> </span></div></span></span></h5></span></span></div><div><br></div>I think it is totally fine and right to ask for some explanation. It might be off-topic for Lubuntu but technically, it is not as long as each and every variant of Ubuntu is using Ubuntu Core which is the common part among all these variants. </div> <div><br></div><div> -- <br><div dir="ltr"><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif" color="#351c75"><b>Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."<br></b></font><span style="font-size:small;font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif">Best Regards,</span><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><br> <font color="#ff0000"><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad" target="_blank">amjjawad</a> - </font></font><font color="#ff0000"><span style="font-size:small;font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif"><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/CommunicationsTeam/WOWLubuntu/StartUbuntu" target="_blank">StartUbuntu Project</a> - </span><span style="font-size:small;font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/352004991569676/" target="_blank">Linux Brainstorming</a> - <a href="http://amjjawad.blogspot.com/2013/07/draft-mubuntu-simple-minimal-system.html" target="_blank">Mubuntu</a></span></font><div> <font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif" color="#0b5394"><a href="http://ubuntugnome.org/" target="_blank">Ubuntu GNOME</a> - <a href="http://xubuntu.org/" target="_blank">Xubuntu</a> - <a href="http://peppermintos.com/about/" target="_blank">Peppermint</a> </font><div> <br><br></div></div></div> </div></div> <br></div></body></html>