I understand you don't like to add an additional layer but composting is what we need for shadows and transparency. If we will not add them... Any basic dock is OK. Just remember the result will be less eye candy. :) F. <div class="gmail_quote">Em 05/07/2013 21:17, "Mr Wislr" <<a href="mailto:contact@unleashpc.com">contact@unleashpc.com</a>> escreveu: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Other than that its wbar or simdock both do not require a composite manager --Ronnie </blockquote></div>