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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Ali,<br>
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      Having 'manners and respect' includes not telling other people to
      learn 'manners and respect'.<br>
      <br>
      Also, from my point of view, you're both speaking in an informal
      fashion. We're all here because we're volunteers, and I don't
      think we need to be especially formal.<br>
      <br>
      Firing insults back is never an appropriate way to deal with
      unexpected content on a mailing list; either ignore it and move
      on, or tactfully mention it if it becomes a persistent problem.<br>
      <br>
      I hope I have not outspoken my position, but I feel you've erred
      in your judgement.<br>
      <br>
      Michael<br>
      <br>
      On 26/06/13 18:08, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:<br>
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        I would strongly suggest you go and learn some manners and
        respect, then come back :)
        <div>I would also suggest you read the CoC and the mailing list
          do and do not.</div>
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          <div style="">And before you jump in to the middle of some
            serious discussion, keep the informal stuff away and don't
            assume you know much about Lubuntu because you do not.</div>
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          <div style="">I did not like your attitude at all and there
            are billion of better way to express your thoughts rather
            than this. I don't reply such non-sense.</div>
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          <div style="">And next time you want to shout, do it off this
            list!</div>
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          <div style="">Too bad this list is not moderated. </div>
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          <div style="">P.S.</div>
          <div style="">Obviously, Linux is not your cup of tea so I
            would strongly recommend you stick with Microsoft Windows :)</div>
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              <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 8:51 PM,
                Tracer <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                  <div>> ----- Original Message -----<br>
                    > From: Ali Linx (amjjawad)<br>
                    <br>
                    > Above all, none of us know how much RAM those
                    users have.<br>
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                  Assume 128 MB.<br>
                  That is what I had. And XP installed readily and NEVER
                  crashed.<br>
                  (Tho' it never RAN, it only "walked")<br>
                  Browsing, emails, torrents, movies, music,
                  ebook-readers... with<br>
                  the overhead of Avast-Anti-virus.<br>
                  Youtube ran on Explorer, Firefox, Chrome, and NEVER
                  crashed.<br>
                  <br>
                  While W95, W97, W98 & W2k used to crash, requiring
                  reinstalls like<br>
                  once a week on an average, I installed XP only ONCE.
                  Used 10 years.<br>
                  <br>
                  I don't like Microsoft's attitude; I am quite
                  disgusted by their<br>
                  philosophy of change for the sake of change (and,
                  ahem, profit)<br>
                  but don't let my anti-MS jihad dwarf the fact that XP
                  really WORKED.<br>
                  <br>
                  This's hardly a platform for praise of XP ...except
                  when it's a fact.<br>
                  ("He who cares not to know the strength of his enemy
                  shall soon<br>
                  taste defeat"  -Sun Tsu, The Art of War)<br>
                  <br>
                  Exec Summary: XP users have HIGH expectations!<br>
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                    > We don't even know how many are they. We are so
                    far basing our actions on assuming this<br>
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                  > and that. No solid and fixed data yet and I guess
                  we will never have that.<br>
                  <div>> How Many Windows XP Users are having 256MB
                    RAM or Less?<br>
                    ><br>
                    > 10%?<br>
                    > 20%?<br>
                    > 50%?<br>
                    ><br>
                    > I have no idea.<br>
                    > I hope you see my point and what I'm trying to
                    say here.<br>
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                  I do, but I dont like it at all.<br>
                  That is how I would expect Bill Gates/Steve Jobs to
                  think & talk.<br>
                  Linux guys are ( should be ) more like
                  Picasso/Rembrandt.<br>
                  And the attitude inspired by Bhagwad Gita.<br>
                  <br>
                  Exec Summary: Go by your conscience/passion, not
                  repercussions.<br>
                  <br>
                  PS : One bad apple...<br>
                  Whether you let down 10% or 50% people, you have let
                  down the<br>
                  Lubuntu philosophy, and sold your soul.<br>
                  <div><br>
                    > What is wrong with our current installer? :D<br>
                    > It is really simply and beautiful :D<br>
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                  Hej! I'd think Bill Gates makes you say that!<br>
                  Half of
                  Puppy,Knoppix,Slax,BrowserLinux,Slitaz,Bodhi,Arch
                  users<br>
                  couldn't get Lubuntu installed, so they drifted to...<br>
                  <br>
                  Exec Summary: Lubuntu is GOOD! ....Pity you can't
                  install it.<br>
                  <div><br>
                    > I think this will cost us time and extra work
                    which unfortunately, no one<br>
                    > has :(<br>
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                  OMG! Do you read Scott Adams or does Scott Adams read
                  you?<br>
                  (Do you have pointy hair?!!)<br>
                  <br>
                  Always, especially when resources are low, attack the
                  BOTTLENECK!<br>
                  Lubuntu is ALREADY good. It's been field tested since
                  04-2010!<br>
                  Work on the INSTALLER or just release 10.04 to the XP
                  users.<br>
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                    > We must not confuse them with multiple options.
                    I'm very concern and<br>
                    > worried about our Wiki Area. It must be as
                    simple as pie if we really<br>
                    > really want to have more users. Oh, in fact, as
                    new comers, they might not<br>
                    > read :D I've seen some examples of some guys
                    who need someone to come and<br>
                    > do the clicks for him while he sits back and
                    watch :D we need to expect<br>
                    > that level of users if we really want to make a
                    huge success.<br>
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                  OHHHH, Sure, XP users come from Somalia, Sudan &
                  Saudi!!!<br>
                  Doh.<br>
                  You are thinking of Mac, aren't you!<br>
                  Windows users are pretty much up to speed.<br>
                  In fact, installing software packages in Windows is
                  MUCH<br>
                  more difficult than using Synaptic! Starts with a
                  Readme file!<br>
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                  Exec Summary: LISTEN TO NIO.<br>
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                  BR,<br>
                  Tracey<br>
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                      style="color:rgb(11,83,148)">Best Regards,</span></b><br>
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