<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>If you need any translations into german for this project, feel free to ask as it is my native language.</div><div><br>Am 24.06.2013 um 00:37 schrieb "Ali Linx (amjjawad)" <<a href="mailto:amjjawad@gmail.com">amjjawad@gmail.com</a>>:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">Hi again,<div><br></div><div>I have not read that on the news/post/link. I did not understand your first email, hence my emails. I'm sorry but all in all, this discussion was helpful so at least, everyone know what we are up to :)</div>
<div><br></div><div style="">Enough to remain silent about Start Ubuntu Project as a project that must be a Priority and it is for me, to be honest.</div><div style=""><br></div><div style="">Having the said, I do agree that it is better for them to wait for 14.04.</div>
<div style=""><br></div><div style="">And, I do suggest we discuss more in depth about Start Ubuntu.</div><div style=""><br></div><div style="">I have also read the other day but forgot to sent it. The Spanish Gov is also willing to use Linux and save about 20 Millions Euro.</div>
<div style=""><br></div><div style="">So, my friends, the coming days will be really full of fun and hard work. Let's do it.</div><div style=""><br></div><div style="">Sorry again Phill. I guess I was so excited. You know me.</div>
<div style=""><br></div><div style="">P.S.</div><div style="">Wait, why should we wait for the Germany Gov to do that move? why not we do it???? </div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 2:27 AM, Phill Whiteside <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:PhillW@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">PhillW@ubuntu.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Ali,<div><br></div><div>they plan to release the CD's in March, doing so means they will be using 13.10. In April (one month later) 14.04 LTS is released and any users of 13.10 will be prompted to upgrade. Those who choose not to will have support dropped in July. As I have stated a couple of times, it seems pointless to create lots of CD's which have a shelf life of a few months and that they should be contacted and this matter explained to them. If they use the 14.04, it can be billed fully as an LTS with updates arriving throughout it's life time. </div>
<div><br></div><div>I hope I have made myself clearer to you.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Phill.</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_quote">
On 23 June 2013 23:21, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:amjjawad@gmail.com" target="_blank">amjjawad@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Phill,</div><div><br></div><div>Problem is, we are talking apples and oranges here.</div><div>I have never stated that Lubuntu 13.10 will be 'the replacement' for Windows XP :)</div>
<div>I have stated, I'm stating, and will state that Lubuntu, is the best replacement for Windows XP.</div><div><br></div><div>Please, if that is not clear, by all means, I'm more than glad to repeat myself :D</div>
<div><br></div><div>So, our argument/discussion/etc is invalid.</div><div><br></div><div>By the way, 13.10 will be released in October. 14.04 LTS will be released in April. That is 6 months, not 9 :)</div>
<div>So, if say they will start using Lubuntu 13.10 by next October, by next April, they will have an LTS version :)</div><div><br></div><div>Again, the point is, they will start using Linux. </div><div>
It happened that Linux System is Lubuntu.</div><div><br></div><div>Are you telling me that the one and only version of Lubuntu that will be used is 13.10? I guess not.</div><div><br></div><div>I do hope now I have made myself clear enough!</div>
<div><br></div><div>Thanks :)</div><div><div><br><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 1:57 AM, Phill Whiteside <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:PhillW@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">PhillW@ubuntu.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Yes, <div><br></div><div>I have a Q.... by all means promote lubuntu as an XP replacement... but the release of such a replacement will be the 14.04 LTS. As desktop releases only have 9 months support, are you seriously going to argue that 13.10 is a replacement and in 9 months time all support will be dropped? If they go for a March launch, then the CD's will be unsupported by July 2014.....</div>
<div><br></div><div>I think that would be a VERY bad move.</div><div><br></div><div>Phill.</div><div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 23 June 2013 22:44, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:amjjawad@gmail.com" target="_blank">amjjawad@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Phill,</div><div><br></div><div>With all due respect to your personal opinion, I do disagree with you :)</div>
<div><br></div><div><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/CommunicationsTeam/WOWLubuntu/StartUbuntu" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/CommunicationsTeam/WOWLubuntu/StartUbuntu</a><br>
</div><div><br></div><div>I have created this project months ago. I was NOT planning to hold anything back. As a respect to the decision to wait, that was because this project was born in March and we had to release 13.04. Now, 13.04 has been released, 13.10 is under development, I simply 'fail' to see any good point to wait.</div>
<div><br></div><div>The Germany Government has made that move. This is a HUGE move. We should carry on and be happy, not to hold or wait, PLEASE!</div><div><br></div><div>I'm saying it here now, publicly, that I can simply stop ALL my activities on Lubuntu Community and JUST focus on Start Ubuntu.</div>
<div><br></div><div>This Project must NEVER wait. You may think we do have time. Sorry, this is wrong. We do not have time. Time flies and runs so fast. </div><div><br></div><div>IMHO, let them start using any version of Lubuntu. Let them get used to it. Let them explore it. Let them start asking Qs. ALL that time, from now to 14.04, we will have so many feedback, notes, suggestions, etc. This will no question will HELP us to make a rock solid system.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I've been asked to change the name of Start Lubuntu to Start Ubuntu. I've been told to wait until 13.10. ALL done.</div><div>Now, I'm sorry, I'm not planning to remain silent after this huge step from the Germany Government.</div>
<div><br></div><div>@Everyone</div><div><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/CommunicationsTeam/WOWLubuntu/StartUbuntu" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/CommunicationsTeam/WOWLubuntu/StartUbuntu</a><br>
</div><div><br></div><div>Please read and contact me if you have any Q.</div><div><br></div><div>Let's do it, please! </div><div><div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 1:28 AM, Phill Whiteside <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:PhillW@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">PhillW@ubuntu.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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This is pretty awesome news for lubuntu!<div>
<br></div><div>@ Ali and others who I asked to hold back on our shouting out that lubuntu should wait for 13.10, I apologise! Sadly it is planned from March, I do think we should get in touch with them and ask that it coincide with our 1st LTS which is April.</div>
<div><br></div><div>@ Jono, can you, via Canonical, alert them to the fact it would be better to wait for our 1st LTS in April 2014?<br><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Phill.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
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