<div dir="ltr"><div style>Phill,</div><div style><br></div><div style>Problem is, we are talking apples and oranges here.</div><div style>I have never stated that Lubuntu 13.10 will be 'the replacement' for Windows XP :)</div>
<div style>I have stated, I'm stating, and will state that Lubuntu, is the best replacement for Windows XP.</div><div style><br></div><div style>Please, if that is not clear, by all means, I'm more than glad to repeat myself :D</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>So, our argument/discussion/etc is invalid.</div><div style><br></div><div style>By the way, 13.10 will be released in October. 14.04 LTS will be released in April. That is 6 months, not 9 :)</div>
<div style>So, if say they will start using Lubuntu 13.10 by next October, by next April, they will have an LTS version :)</div><div style><br></div><div style>Again, the point is, they will start using Linux. </div><div style>
It happened that Linux System is Lubuntu.</div><div style><br></div><div style>Are you telling me that the one and only version of Lubuntu that will be used is 13.10? I guess not.</div><div style><br></div><div style>I do hope now I have made myself clear enough!</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>Thanks :)</div><br><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 1:57 AM, Phill Whiteside <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:PhillW@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">PhillW@ubuntu.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Yes, <div><br></div><div>I have a Q.... by all means promote lubuntu as an XP replacement... but the release of such a replacement will be the 14.04 LTS. As desktop releases only have 9 months support, are you seriously going to argue that 13.10 is a replacement and in 9 months time all support will be dropped? If they go for a March launch, then the CD's will be unsupported by July 2014.....</div>
<div><br></div><div>I think that would be a VERY bad move.</div><div><br></div><div>Phill.</div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 23 June 2013 22:44, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:amjjawad@gmail.com" target="_blank">amjjawad@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Phill,</div><div><br></div><div>With all due respect to your personal opinion, I do disagree with you :)</div>
<div><br></div><div><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/CommunicationsTeam/WOWLubuntu/StartUbuntu" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/CommunicationsTeam/WOWLubuntu/StartUbuntu</a><br>
</div><div><br></div><div>I have created this project months ago. I was NOT planning to hold anything back. As a respect to the decision to wait, that was because this project was born in March and we had to release 13.04. Now, 13.04 has been released, 13.10 is under development, I simply 'fail' to see any good point to wait.</div>
<div><br></div><div>The Germany Government has made that move. This is a HUGE move. We should carry on and be happy, not to hold or wait, PLEASE!</div><div><br></div><div>I'm saying it here now, publicly, that I can simply stop ALL my activities on Lubuntu Community and JUST focus on Start Ubuntu.</div>
<div><br></div><div>This Project must NEVER wait. You may think we do have time. Sorry, this is wrong. We do not have time. Time flies and runs so fast. </div><div><br></div><div>IMHO, let them start using any version of Lubuntu. Let them get used to it. Let them explore it. Let them start asking Qs. ALL that time, from now to 14.04, we will have so many feedback, notes, suggestions, etc. This will no question will HELP us to make a rock solid system.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I've been asked to change the name of Start Lubuntu to Start Ubuntu. I've been told to wait until 13.10. ALL done.</div><div>Now, I'm sorry, I'm not planning to remain silent after this huge step from the Germany Government.</div>
<div><br></div><div>@Everyone</div><div><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/CommunicationsTeam/WOWLubuntu/StartUbuntu" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/CommunicationsTeam/WOWLubuntu/StartUbuntu</a><br>
</div><div><br></div><div>Please read and contact me if you have any Q.</div><div><br></div><div>Let's do it, please! </div><div><div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 1:28 AM, Phill Whiteside <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:PhillW@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">PhillW@ubuntu.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
This is pretty awesome news for lubuntu!<div>
<br></div><div>@ Ali and others who I asked to hold back on our shouting out that lubuntu should wait for 13.10, I apologise! Sadly it is planned from March, I do think we should get in touch with them and ask that it coincide with our 1st LTS which is April.</div>
<div><br></div><div>@ Jono, can you, via Canonical, alert them to the fact it would be better to wait for our 1st LTS in April 2014?<br><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Phill.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">René Lara</b> <span dir="ltr"><notification+zj4ozoaz=<a href="mailto:9sc@facebookmail.com" target="_blank">9sc@facebookmail.com</a>></span><br>
Date: 23 June 2013 22:00<br>
Subject: [Lubuntu Official] Good news people :) I'm glad to tell you:<br>To: Lubuntu Official <<a href="mailto:lubuntu.official@groups.facebook.com" target="_blank">lubuntu.official@groups.facebook.com</a>><br>
<br><br><u></u>
<div style="margin:0px;padding:0px" dir="ltr"><table width="98%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="8"><tbody><tr><td bgcolor="#FFFFFF" width="100%" style="font-family:'lucida grande',tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif">
<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="500"><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" style="font-size:13px;font-family:'lucida grande',tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif;padding:10px 0px 0px 10px" valign="top"><table width="100%" style="font-size:13px">
<tbody><tr><td width="100%" valign="top" align="left" style="font-size:13px;font-family:'lucida grande',tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif"><div style="width:100%;color:rgb(102,102,102);padding:0px 0px 7px;border-bottom-color:rgb(233,233,233);border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:solid">
<a href="http://www.facebook.com/n/?groups%2Flubuntu.official%2Fpermalink%2F536623069727851%2F&mid=8315f08G5af348fef078G1b804e6G96&bcode=1.1372021210.AbnxhJ0JJF_8jaee&n_m=phillw%40vpolink.com" style="color:rgb(59,89,152);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">René Lara posted in Lubuntu Official</a></div>
<div style="margin-bottom:15px"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="width:100%;padding-top:7px"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="padding:3px 5px 5px 0px;width:57px"><a href="http://www.facebook.com/n/?profile.php&id=1166318044&mid=8315f08G5af348fef078G1b804e6G96&bcode=1.1372021210.AbnxhJ0JJF_8jaee&n_m=phillw%40vpolink.com" style="color:rgb(59,89,152);text-decoration:none" target="_blank"><img src="https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-frc1/372359_1166318044_1689964957_q.jpg" alt="Good news people :) I'm glad to tell you:..." style="border:0px;min-height:50px;width:50px"></a></td>
<td valign="top" align="left" style="padding:5px 5px 5px 0px;font-family:'lucida grande',tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="width:100%;padding-bottom:5px"><tbody><tr><td style="font-size:13px;font-family:'lucida grande',tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif">
<a style="color:rgb(59,89,152);text-decoration:none;font-weight:bold" href="http://www.facebook.com/n/?profile.php&id=1166318044&mid=8315f08G5af348fef078G1b804e6G96&bcode=1.1372021210.AbnxhJ0JJF_8jaee&n_m=phillw%40vpolink.com" target="_blank">René Lara</a></td>
<td style="text-align:right;color:rgb(153,153,153);padding-right:5px;font-family:'lucida grande',tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif;font-size:11px"> 23 June 22:00 </td></tr></tbody></table><div style="font-size:13px;width:458px;word-wrap:break-word;padding-bottom:7px">
Good news people :) I'm glad to tell you:<br> <br> Congratulations buddies, you have made an excellent job at Lubuntu and there it is, you're being considered one of the best Linux distros today, and now Munich has chosen your distro to give it to their people.<br>
<br> ...And I think I will try Lubuntu 13.04 or maybe the beta for 13.10, because I have a free 20 Gb Partition ;) :D</div><div style="font-size:13px;padding:10px 0px"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-collapse:collapse">
<tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="padding-right:10px"><a href="http://www.facebook.com/l/DAQGF6piMAQGiQYa5GgCSRsCBFapj81EqmWYpeGQCktsLCA/www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/06/germany-to-hand-out-free-ubuntu-cds-on-xps-deat" style="color:rgb(59,89,152);text-decoration:none" target="_blank"><img src="https://fbexternal-a.akamaihd.net/safe_image.php?d=AQBGExHiwBAc0Ou4&w=154&h=154&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.omgubuntu.co.uk%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F03%2FIMG_1152-300x200.jpg" style="width:90px" width="90" alt=""></a></td>
<td valign="top"><a href="http://www.facebook.com/l/oAQEKfogUAQHM79Y17Fs9MQc0YLne--ZmZvW5XBEunlBryQ/www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/06/germany-to-hand-out-free-ubuntu-cds-on-xps-deat" style="color:rgb(59,89,152);text-decoration:none;font-weight:bold" target="_blank">German City Hopes to Wean Citizens Off Windows XP With Free Linux CDs - OMG! Ubuntu!</a><a href="http://www.facebook.com/l/oAQEKfogUAQHM79Y17Fs9MQc0YLne--ZmZvW5XBEunlBryQ/www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/06/germany-to-hand-out-free-ubuntu-cds-on-xps-deat" style="color:rgb(59,89,152);text-decoration:none" target="_blank"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%" border="0" style="border-collapse:collapse;margin-bottom:10px">
<tbody><tr><td style="font-weight:bold;font-family:'Lucida Grande','Lucida Sans',Tahoma,Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:11px;color:rgb(51,51,51);border:none;padding:0px">
www.omgubuntu.co.uk</td></tr></tbody></table></a><div>Munich City Council plan to distribute free Linux CDs to citizens as a 'replacement for Windows XP' ...</div></td></tr></tbody></table></div></td></tr></tbody></table>
</div></td></tr></tbody></table><span><img src="https://www.facebook.com/email_open_log_pic.php?c=1770442677&mid=8315f08G5af348fef078G1b804e6G96" style="border:0px;width:1px;min-height:1px"></span><br></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2" style="color:rgb(102,102,102);padding:10px 5px 15px 10px;border-top-color:rgb(233,233,233);border-top-width:1px;border-top-style:solid;line-height:18px;font-size:12px;font-family:'lucida grande',tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif">
<a href="http://www.facebook.com/n/?groups%2Flubuntu.official%2Fpermalink%2F536623069727851%2F&mid=8315f08G5af348fef078G1b804e6G96&bcode=1.1372021210.AbnxhJ0JJF_8jaee&n_m=phillw%40vpolink.com" style="color:rgb(59,89,152);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">View Post on Facebook</a> · <a href="http://www.facebook.com/n/?settings&tab=notifications§ion=group_notification&mid=8315f08G5af348fef078G1b804e6G96&bcode=1.1372021210.AbnxhJ0JJF_8jaee&n_m=phillw%40vpolink.com" style="color:rgb(59,89,152);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">Edit email settings</a> · Reply to this email to add a comment.<span><font color="#888888"><br clear="all">
<div><br></div>-- <br><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw</a>
</font></span></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div></div></div><span><font color="#888888">-- <br><div dir="ltr"><div><p style="margin:0px 0px 1em;font-family:'Ubuntu Beta',UbuntuBeta,Ubuntu,'Bitstream Vera Sans','DejaVu Sans',Tahoma,sans-serif;line-height:19px">
<span><font color="#000000"><big>"All of us are smarter than any one of us."</big><span></span><span></span></font></span></p><p style="margin:0px 0px 1em;font-family:'Ubuntu Beta',UbuntuBeta,Ubuntu,'Bitstream Vera Sans','DejaVu Sans',Tahoma,sans-serif;line-height:19px">
</p></div><div><b style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(11,83,148)">Best Regards,</span></b><br></div><div><span style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif"><b><span style="color:rgb(11,83,148)"><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/" target="_blank">amjjawad</a></span></b><br>
</span></div><span style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif"><b><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/CommunicationsTeam/WOWLubuntu/StartUbuntu" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(204,0,0)">Start Ubuntu</span></a></b><br>
</span><div><div style="font-size:small"><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b><a href="http://alilinx.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">My Own Business</a></b></font></div>
</div><div style="font-size:small"><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif" color="#000000"><br></font></div></div>
</font></span></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div></div></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">-- <br><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw</a>
</font></span></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr"><div><p style="margin:0px 0px 1em;font-family:'Ubuntu Beta',UbuntuBeta,Ubuntu,'Bitstream Vera Sans','DejaVu Sans',Tahoma,sans-serif;line-height:19px">
<span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font color="#000000"><big>"All of us are smarter than any one of us."</big><span></span><span></span></font></span></p><p style="margin:0px 0px 1em;font-family:'Ubuntu Beta',UbuntuBeta,Ubuntu,'Bitstream Vera Sans','DejaVu Sans',Tahoma,sans-serif;line-height:19px">
</p></div><div><b style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(11,83,148)">Best Regards,</span></b><br></div><div><span style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><b><span style="color:rgb(11,83,148)"><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/" target="_blank">amjjawad</a></span></b><br>
</span></div><span style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><b><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/CommunicationsTeam/WOWLubuntu/StartUbuntu" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(204,0,0)">Start Ubuntu</span></a></b><br>
</span><div><div style="font-size:small"><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b><a href="http://alilinx.blogspot.com/" style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" target="_blank">My Own Business</a></b></font></div>
</div><div style="font-size:small"><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif" color="#000000"><br></font></div></div>
</div></div>