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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/06/13 19:52, Ali Linx (amjjawad)
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<div dir="ltr">Hi,
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<div>Apparently, the off-topic issue on the mailing list is a
habit so this is a new thread :D</div>
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<div>I totally respect your disagreement. I totally understand
some users are having problems. It is not about challenging my
nor my so many tests, it is about one simple thing:</div>
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<div>I have failed to produce that issue no matter how many
times I have tired.</div>
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<div>I even tried below 256MB of RAM but that did not crash the
installation at all. YES, the installation process was SO SLOW
but never crashed, in all my tests.</div>
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<div>So, I'm not defeating the idea as a whole, I'm stating what
I've found and what my so many tests for 2 years had shown and
proved to my, at least.</div>
<div>It is not that I don't believe you, but I can't disagree
with my eyes too.</div>
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<div>On the other hand, I do not think this is why we can't get
more users. </div>
<div>As long as there are workarounds this, I think it is not
yet a huge issue.</div>
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<div>Anyway, it appears that this issue happens with some
hardware and never happen on some other hardware. That is the
ONLY logical explanation for why I failed to produce it so
far.</div>
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<div>Thanks!</div>
<div>P.S.</div>
<div>Do I really have to dig for my old emails and post some
screenshots? :P <br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 10:44 PM,
Michael Rawson <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<div dir="ltr">I honestly think
zram could help during the
one-time graphical installation
of Lubuntu on 512MB pcs. In
fact, edubuntu included zram in
that distribution for that exact
reason. We could eliminate
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<div>For the last two years testing Lubuntu
on old hardware (256MB-512MB of RAM), that
maybe 1000 installations or more, I have
never ever faced the so called slideshow
crashing issue :)</div>
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<div>Please, let's keep the topic as it is
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Ali,<br>
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I'd like to respectfully disagree. Lubuntu in my
experience uses a lot of RAM during installation, but
nowhere near as much during normal use. If we could
get that installation figure down, we can get a lot
more users. If that means the installation is slower,
so be it. I doubt many users are too bothered by
another couple of minutes when installing.<span
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Michael.<br>
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PS Please don't take this as a challenge to your
authority, I'd just like to suggest this is perhaps an
option worth discussing. Maybe as another email thread
as you see fit?<br>
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<div><b style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif"><span
style="color:rgb(11,83,148)">Best Regards,</span></b><br>
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Ubuntu</span></a></b><br>
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<div><i><span style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">Test
Machine: ASUS F3F Laptop - </span></i><span
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span><i>Intel
Core Duo T2350 @ 1.86GHz with 489MB RAM</i><br>
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Intermittent issues do exist for technical reasons. I imagine it's
something out of our lowly control. :)<br>
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I'm not especially convinced either way on the topic, I just thought
it was probably worth discussing. And we will probably gain a few
more users as we will (hypothetically?) be able to reduce the amount
of RAM we post as a requirement on the documentation pages.<br>
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