Hi,<div><br></div><div>I did ask people (and still do) to not flood that bug report as I was asked to do some specific tests to see where the 'problem' was. A lot of chat also goes on outside of bug reports. He's a busy guy who has given fully open and honest advice as he sees it.</div>
<div><br></div><div>The areas he has issues of are listed at <a href="https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-1305-chromium-default-browser">https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-1305-chromium-default-browser</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>Until and unless they get these issues resolved, I will say we go with Ffox. As to the question of midori, we can continue that forward, it was discussed in previous cycles and is in the main repo so it can be discussed again provided that it is fully compliant with tools such as ocre.</div>
<div> ** This is from me, personally.... It has been a long term goal of mine for lubuntu to be able to work with accessibilty issues. Our devs have enough on their workload to develop lubuntu / lxde etc without having to worry too much about other things. Ffox works with the standard accessibilty system, Chromium does not.**</div>
<div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Phill.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 1 June 2013 01:53, Iberê Fernandes <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ibere.fernandes@gmail.com" target="_blank">ibere.fernandes@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Julien,<div><br></div><div>One of my laptops is a Celeron M 1200 Mhz, 512 Ram from 2002. Kind of old machine (but still good, of course) to use Lubuntu.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Memory report after 1h hour of navigation on 2 to 3 tabs (no facebook though, because it's a browser killer to me):</div>
<div><div>Memory </div><div>Browser<span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span> Private<span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span> Proportional</div><div>Chromium 155,276k<span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span> 93,976k</div>
<div>Firefox 99,604k 30,128k</div></div><div><br></div><div>Usage on the report above: youtube, email, google search, forum reading.</div><div><br></div><div>My vote: Firefox. I'm using FF 21 vs Chromium <span style="color:rgb(48,57,66);font-family:Ubuntu,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px">25.0.1364.160 on this laptop.</span></div>
<div><br></div><div>Anyway I stick with Phill's test once I believe it's more empiric/scientific.</div><div><br></div><div>Just a note: Firefox tends to be slow to open, but after it's open, it's faster than Chromium to me. Not very important if we stick to the most important side: it's the surfing/browsing speed that counts more than the opening/initial loading.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Question: why Midori is not a candidate?</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Iberê</div><div><div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/5/31 Phill Whiteside <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:PhillW@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">PhillW@ubuntu.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Boss,<div><br></div><div>we did actually do some tests via <a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1096603" target="_blank">https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1096603</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>It was pretty clear that the slimmed down Ffox was better for low resource machines (as evident in post <a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1096603/comments/4" target="_blank">https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1096603/comments/4</a> )</div>
<div><br></div><div>In all my dealings with Chad from Canonical who looks after Chromium, I have have never had any cause to doubt his honesty and openness. That he suggests staying with Ffox for ubuntu is a massive statement. IMHO, Lubuntu would be wrong to not follow his advice.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Phill.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On 31 May 2013 22:55, Yorvyk <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:yorvik.ubunto@googlemail.com" target="_blank">yorvik.ubunto@googlemail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div>On 31/05/13 21:56, Yorvyk wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
On 31/05/13 20:25, Nio Wiklund wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
On 2013-05-31 19:53, Julien Lavergne wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
So, if you have feedback on using both browsers, please bring it to us<br>
:-) But please, keep the discussion on this topic (feedback on low<br>
spec hardware).<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
I prefer Firefox in general (maybe because I am more used to it) but I<br>
use both. Sometimes it is convenient to run both at the same time.<br>
<br>
But since I'm interested in the support of old and 'small' hardware, I<br>
have also tried Firefox and Chromium-Browser with very limited RAM (less<br>
than 1 GB). Then it is very obvious that Firefox is better. I have the<br>
same experience as Lars Noodén with the "it's dead, Jim" message in<br>
Chromium-Browser.<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
System - 450 Mhz PIII - 640 MiB RAM - Matrox MGA G200 VGA Controller<br>
<br>
Neither Firefox or Chromium will play Flash. Chromium invariably<br>
displays the 'It's dead Jim@ message, FF just displays a blank space but<br>
at least it leaves the rest of the page intact.<br>
<br>
Memory usage when both idle with no extensions using about:memory in<br>
Chromium.<br>
<br>
Firefox - 39804k<br>
<br>
Chromium - 81164k<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div>
Should have mentioned the memory readings took place using Saucy with Firefox 22 and Chromium 25.</div></div><div><div><div><div><br>
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