Hi Nio, Julien et. all.<div><br></div><div>we have in the past mentioned community re-spins of lubuntu and when you are happy with the README, I am happy to host the iso and see no reason not to include a mention of both the use of fake-pae and of a 13.04 community re-spin so that people do not need to use fake-pae. The thing about linix is 'choice', give people the choice and let them decide. Use fake-pae if they already have an install of 12.04 that they want to run through two dist-upgrades and the non-pae 13.04 for those who are installing for the 1st time. I see this as a "win - win" situation.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Phill.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 2 May 2013 04:19, Nio Wiklund <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nio.wiklund@gmail.com" target="_blank">nio.wiklund@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Hi Julien and Phill,<br>
<div class="im"><br>
<br>
I think Lubuntu 13.04 'Raring' for Pentium M CPUs is a good alternative<br>
</div>for a fresh install (instead of downloading 12.04 and upgrading twice to<br>
newer releases).<br>
<br>
I'm receiving feedback from a few people right now, and I have to<br>
improve the instructions in the README file, maybe also change the<br>
concept of it to make it easier to understand and manage, since it is<br>
different from the standard way of distributing software.<br>
<br>
-o-<br>
<div class="im"><br>
But for those who have<br>
<br>
</div>- more or less personalized versions of Lubuntu 12.04 running, or<br>
- already have a Lubuntu 12.04 iso file and a slow internet connection<br>
<div class="im"><br>
the fake-pae method is good for upgrading to new pae releases, so yes,<br>
</div>it should be mentioned on the wiki.<br>
<br>
-o-<br>
<br>
Background<br>
<br>
The Pentium M CPUs are a special case. They have pae capability, but do<br>
not announce the pae flag. So they fall between the chairs. With the<br>
fake-pae trick, introduced by 7bit @ ubuntuforums, it is possible to<br>
upgrade. There are many high-quality professional laptops around with<br>
Pentium M processors.<br>
<br>
And, I have a Raring installation on a USB 3 pendrive, that runs<br>
beautifully on my old Thinkpad with Pentium M without the pae flag.<br>
So the fake-pae flag helps it sit on the pae chair.<br>
<br>
This is what I am willing to offer to other Pentium M owners.<br>
<div class="im HOEnZb"><br>
<br>
Best regards<br>
Nio<br>
<br>
<br>
On 2013-05-01 12:55, Julien Lavergne wrote:<br>
</div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">> Why not just add a mention on the wiki to use fake-pae for people in<br>
> this case ? It seems less complicated that downloading a full version<br>
> of Lubuntu just for this.<br>
> If you are blocked by the upgrade tool, just advertise the use of<br>
> "apt-get dist-upgrade".<br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
> Julien Lavergne<br>
><br>
> 2013/4/30 Phill Whiteside <<a href="mailto:PhillW@ubuntu.com">PhillW@ubuntu.com</a>>:<br>
>> Hi Nio,<br>
>><br>
>> I'm okay with hosting it[1]. But you will need to write up some<br>
>> documentation, name it etc.<br>
>><br>
>> Regards,<br>
>><br>
>> Phill.<br>
>> 1. <a href="http://phillw.net/isos/" target="_blank">http://phillw.net/isos/</a><br>
>><br>
>> On 30 April 2013 20:41, Nio Wiklund <<a href="mailto:nio.wiklund@gmail.com">nio.wiklund@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Hello everybody,<br>
>>><br>
>>> I think it will be hard to make the devs accept the small fix in the<br>
>>> general code of *ubuntu to make it possible to install into a computer<br>
>>> with Pentium M CPU. But it works with a system, that is installed in a<br>
>>> modern computer, and ported to the Pentium M as a USB drive or cloned or<br>
>>> rsynced to an internal hard disk drive.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I have such a system ready for distribution, but have a few requests<br>
>>> before it can be uploaded and available for everybody.<br>
>>><br>
>>> 1. Please read the attached README file and suggest changes (remove,<br>
>>> change or add text)!<br>
>>><br>
>>> 2. Please suggest where to upload it! The size is 1.1 GB.<br>
>>><br>
>>> sudodus@ssd-grund ~/test/pae4pm $ ls -lh<br>
>>> totalt 1,1G<br>
>>> -rw-rw-r-- 1 olle olle 3,0K apr 30 14:24 commands-and-output.txt<br>
>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 olle olle 56 apr 30 16:43 dd-restore.txt<br>
>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 olle olle 1,1G apr 30 20:09 dd-sdb.gz<br>
>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 olle olle 630 apr 30 14:55 dd-sdb.txt<br>
>>> -rw-rw-r-- 1 olle olle 283 apr 30 20:47 md5sums.txt<br>
>>> -rw-rw-r-- 1 olle olle 4,0K apr 30 20:45 README<br>
>>> sudodus@ssd-grund ~/test/pae4pm<br>
>>><br>
>>> I can upload it at a private cloud service, but I think it is better if<br>
>>> you suggest some other place with better bandwidth.<br>
>>><br>
>>> 3. I guess the best thing would be if you can organize a torrent (I<br>
>>> don't know how to do that).<br>
>>><br>
>>> Best regards<br>
>>> Nio<br>
>>><br>
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