<div dir="ltr">i second fernando's suggestion </div><div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Fernando Botelho <<a href="mailto:fernando.botelho@f123.org" target="_blank">fernando.botelho@f123.org</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Julien, I like everything you brought up. Can we add accessibility to the core objectives? I can bring testers, translators, and even coders to help. I just need to know that we can include the approximate 15% of the world population that has some kind of disability. Thanks, Fernando On 04/25/2013 08:52 PM, Julien Lavergne wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Hi, First and following Phill, I want to thank you all for this 13.04 release. Releases after releases, it seems to go smoother than the last one :-) However, it's time to think about the future. During the last cycle, there were a lot of news from Canonical about the future of Ubuntu. Lubuntu is part of the family, so every big changes in Ubuntu affect Lubuntu. However, and I want to make it clear for anyone : Lubuntu is a community project, with its own release schedules, its own choices … That's said, let's go with some ideas :-) What I'm going to say, it's a very long proposal, open for discussions. But discussions mean arguments if you have another opinion ;-) Next steps are 13.10, and 14.04 which should be a LTS version for Ubuntu. Last LTS (12.04), I considered that we were not ready for such commitment. I was also unsure of the work needed to make a good LTS. With more experience, I have now a better vision of this goal. So, let's make it simple, I would like Lubuntu 14.04 to be a LTS version. But claiming we want a LTS its' not enough. First, we need to make it stable enough, so we can safely claim it's a LTS, because people who install a LTS want a stable system. But, I also would like to make it sexy enough to be proud of it, to make people happy to recommend it. I would like to make it THE release of Lubuntu, the reference of all Lubuntu releases. To achieve it, I have several goals in mind, items that I consider we need to finish for the LTS, and I think we can finish them : - Finish lxsession, to make the system fully customizable and able to run minimal set of applications by default (I'll talk about it later, when you will be able to test it properly). - Fully translatable : it's vital to make it available in a maximum of languages - Artwork : finish the icon theme for a GTK environment, finish the other pieces of the artwork and its integration, to make Lubuntu even more beautiful Another item I would like to add, but I'm not sure we will be able to make it, it's an off-line documentation, or a nice manual. Of course, we need also the usual bug fixes and small improvements everywhere, but the main focus should be on those topics. Also, soon we will need to decide which applications we want in this LTS. We should do it in an other discussion, but it's the right time to do big changes if we consider they are good. Considering all the big changes which may happen for 13.10, I'm also thinking of the possibility to not do a proper 13.10 release, depending of the state of 13.10 after all the big structural changes, and near feature freeze. Again, it can be reconsidered in due time, but we may keep this in mind. I'm prepared to drop 1 release if we can do a very good 14.04 LTS. And after 14.04 ? Well, you probably know that Canonical is pushing for a Qt switch over GTK, but also by changing it's display manager (MIR). You may know also that LXDE is thinking about switching to Qt too, by joining forces with Razor-qt desktop environment. All those changes may be an opportunity to start another adventure, using Razor-qt as a base. It's also a reason to release 14.04 as a LTS, because it could be the final release with LXDE and GTK. We will also be free to make very big changes for 14.10, because we know we have a LTS behind to recommend, for a long time. To prepare this, I'll also work on a specific session (call QLubuntu, pronounce it “Cute Lubuntu” ;-)), to test during 13.10 and 14.04, if the option to go with Qt is possible. So, what do you think about it ? :-) Regards, Julien Lavergne </blockquote> -- Lubuntu-users mailing list <a href="mailto:Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users</a> </blockquote></div> </div>