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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">By flavors do you mean Desktop
environments? Is so I've tried them all and can tell you what I
know.<br>
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On 04/25/2013 09:33 PM, Jackson Doak wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">not to take focus away from lubuntu here, but
jonathan and fernado, could you both try all of the flavours and
try and find bugs in the accessablity stuff?<br>
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On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Jonathan Nadeau <span
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<div>I third Fernando's suggestion for accessibility both
he and I are blind GNU/Linux users and would love to see
Lubuntu accessible. I've done a lot of work with it and
have most of it accessible. The only problem I have
right now is making the panel accessible to the Orca
screen reader. There aren't a lot of changes that need
to be made to get it as accessible as I have it now. I
would like to put off the Razor QT desktop for a while.
I have tested it and it is some what accessible but
needs a lot of work. I think in the next year it can
improve greatly. At some point if anyone wants to know
what i did to get lubuntu accessible let me know and we
can talk. Thanks for all of your hard work on this
project.<br>
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On 04/25/2013 08:49 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:<br>
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<div>we did discuss, and finally went with a new desktop
system once before. Provided, as then, we have a Plan
'B' (which we used), I'm sure none of the testers will
have issues. (Well, they can scream at me! )</div>
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<div>As one of the comments here has said. You fully
know that one of my goals is for lubuntu to have full
accessibility 'out of the box'. People needing
accessibility are so often forgotten, or needing
specifications of machines far beyond their budgets. </div>
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<div>The 'older, older' computers may not be around in
2017 if we do make an LTS 14.04 which still supports
them, let's ensure that these people know that they
will not be abandoned.</div>
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<div>Documentation on the CD... A whole new can of
worms... how much room is spare on the CD and how many
languages can we have it translated into? It is
obviously possible and I look forward to discussing
that further.</div>
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<div>But?..... Go For It !!!!</div>
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<div>Regards,</div>
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<div>Phill.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 26 April 2013 00:52,
Julien Lavergne <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote">Hi,<br>
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First and following Phill, I want to thank you all
for this 13.04<br>
release. Releases after releases, it seems to go
smoother than the<br>
last one :-)<br>
<br>
However, it's time to think about the future.
During the last cycle,<br>
there were a lot of news from Canonical about the
future of Ubuntu.<br>
Lubuntu is part of the family, so every big
changes in Ubuntu affect<br>
Lubuntu. However, and I want to make it clear for
anyone : Lubuntu is<br>
a community project, with its own release
schedules, its own choices …<br>
<br>
That's said, let's go with some ideas :-) What I'm
going to say, it's<br>
a very long proposal, open for discussions. But
discussions mean<br>
arguments if you have another opinion ;-)<br>
<br>
Next steps are 13.10, and 14.04 which should be a
LTS version for<br>
Ubuntu. Last LTS (12.04), I considered that we
were not ready for such<br>
commitment. I was also unsure of the work needed
to make a good LTS.<br>
With more experience, I have now a better vision
of this goal.<br>
<br>
So, let's make it simple, I would like Lubuntu
14.04 to be a LTS version.<br>
<br>
But claiming we want a LTS its' not enough. First,
we need to make it<br>
stable enough, so we can safely claim it's a LTS,
because people who<br>
install a LTS want a stable system. But, I also
would like to make it<br>
sexy enough to be proud of it, to make people
happy to recommend it. I<br>
would like to make it THE release of Lubuntu, the
reference of all<br>
Lubuntu releases. To achieve it, I have several
goals in mind, items<br>
that I consider we need to finish for the LTS, and
I think we can<br>
finish them :<br>
<br>
- Finish lxsession, to make the system fully
customizable and able to<br>
run minimal set of applications by default (I'll
talk about it later,<br>
when you will be able to test it properly).<br>
- Fully translatable : it's vital to make it
available in a maximum of languages<br>
- Artwork : finish the icon theme for a GTK
environment, finish the<br>
other pieces of the artwork and its integration,
to make Lubuntu even<br>
more beautiful<br>
<br>
Another item I would like to add, but I'm not sure
we will be able to<br>
make it, it's an off-line documentation, or a nice
manual.<br>
<br>
Of course, we need also the usual bug fixes and
small improvements<br>
everywhere, but the main focus should be on those
topics.<br>
<br>
Also, soon we will need to decide which
applications we want in this<br>
LTS. We should do it in an other discussion, but
it's the right time<br>
to do big changes if we consider they are good.<br>
<br>
Considering all the big changes which may happen
for 13.10, I'm also<br>
thinking of the possibility to not do a proper
13.10 release,<br>
depending of the state of 13.10 after all the big
structural changes,<br>
and near feature freeze. Again, it can be
reconsidered in due time,<br>
but we may keep this in mind. I'm prepared to drop
1 release if we can<br>
do a very good 14.04 LTS.<br>
<br>
And after 14.04 ?<br>
<br>
Well, you probably know that Canonical is pushing
for a Qt switch over<br>
GTK, but also by changing it's display manager
(MIR). You may know<br>
also that LXDE is thinking about switching to Qt
too, by joining<br>
forces with Razor-qt desktop environment. All
those changes may be an<br>
opportunity to start another adventure, using
Razor-qt as a base. It's<br>
also a reason to release 14.04 as a LTS, because
it could be the final<br>
release with LXDE and GTK. We will also be free
to make very big<br>
changes for 14.10, because we know we have a LTS
behind to recommend,<br>
for a long time.<br>
<br>
To prepare this, I'll also work on a specific
session (call QLubuntu,<br>
pronounce it “Cute Lubuntu” ;-)), to test during
13.10 and 14.04, if<br>
the option to go with Qt is possible.<br>
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So, what do you think about it ? :-)<br>
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