<div dir="ltr">I'm sure that some one, some where would be happy to receive your old machine. The other options to look at would be something like DSL, Puppy (if it still going), Xenix etc. <div><br></div><div style>Regards,</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>Phill.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 4 April 2013 18:44, Aere Greenway <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Aere@dvorak-keyboards.com" target="_blank">Aere@dvorak-keyboards.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Phill:<br>
<br>
Thank you very much for the additional information. <br>
<br>
If what you state is indeed the case, it definitely answers my
question as to whether a 450 megahertz machine with 512 megabytes
RAM can be considered a viable minimum system for my users. <br>
<br>
And I think the answer is, that it <b>can't</b> be a viable
minimum system. <br>
<br>
How could I expect users to wait 90 minutes for a machine to get
out of what appears to be a hang? And (having tried it) the
machine can't be used for MIDI music while in that extended 'busy'
state. <br>
<br>
I think I will bid a fond 'farewell' to my old trusty HP-Vectra,
as it journeys to that great bit-bucket in the sky, and use my
next-to-slowest machine (a Compac P933, 933-megahertz machine with
512 megabytes RAM) for testing as a minimum system for my
software. <br>
<br>
Such is the march of progress, for better, or for worse. <br>
<br>
Sincerely,<br>
Aere<div><div class="h5"><br>
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On 04/04/2013 06:44 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Aere,
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<div>I suspect you are seeing</div>
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<div>"<span>Please be aware
that your system may seem to 'hang' (stop) at about 90%
(dpkg), it has not; it just takes a </span><span>little</span><span> time (up to 90
minutes). The lowest specification that we have seen working
is a Pentium 2, with 64MB of RAM using lubuntu core."</span></div>
<div><span><br>
</span></div>
<div><span>It is mentioned in
the minimal install area [1], but possibly the bit about
waiting for upto 90 mins needs repeating in the alternate
area.</span></div>
<div><span><br>
</span></div>
<div><span>Regards,</span></div>
<div><span><br>
</span></div>
<div><font color="#333333" face="Ubuntu, Ubuntu Beta,
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<div><font color="#333333" face="Ubuntu, Ubuntu Beta,
Bitstream Vera Sans, DejaVu Sans, Tahoma, sans-serif"><span style="line-height:19px">1. </span></font><a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall" target="_blank">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall</a></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 4 April 2013 06:03, Aere Greenway <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Aere@dvorak-keyboards.com" target="_blank">Aere@dvorak-keyboards.com</a>></span>
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<div>On 04/03/2013 03:31 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote:<br>
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I suggest that you try updating with terminal window
commands<br>
<br>
sudo apt-get update<br>
sudo apt-get upgrade<br>
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Nio:<br>
<br>
I tried this on my HP-Vectra machine (both on Lubuntu 12.10,
and Ubuntu-Studio 12.04).<br>
<br>
Unfortunately, I encounter the same (or worse) problem.<br>
<br>
Everything seems to be going fine, and I can monitor
everything.<br>
<br>
Then it gets to the point where it says:<br>
<br>
ldconfig deferred processing taking place<br>
<br>
At that point, control returns to the command prompt, so I
can execute other commands.<br>
<br>
But the processor is over 90% busy, running python as
user=root. It keeps running for longer than would normally
be required for applying updates. And watching the task
manager window gives me no clue of what it is doing.<br>
<br>
If I run the software updater, it says my system is
up-to-date.<br>
<br>
I finally shut down my system (hoping the package database
didn't get messed-up).<br>
<br>
The very same thing happens on Ubuntu-Studio (Xubuntu).<br>
<br>
At least using the software-updater, I could get clues from
the task manager of what it was doing.<br>
<br>
So, unfortunately, I still cannot reliably update Linux
systems on my HP-Vectra (450 megahertz, 512 meg RAM)
machine.<span><font color="#888888"><br>
<br>
-- <br>
Sincerely,<br>
Aere</font></span>
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