<div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">I personally haven't been affected by any of this but it seems odd to me anyone would try to make it more difficult to join in. Just because someone isn't active now doesn't mean they won't be able to contribute at a later date. I'm more than happy for you guys to do as you please but I'm a bit perplexed by purposefully removing those who sign up to something of their own accord.<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">-- <br></font></span><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">Regards,</font></span><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br></font></span><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">Jared Norris<br>
</font></span><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris</a></font></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Thank you Jared for your reply and for sharing your opinion :)</div>
<div><br></div><div>This is a process we used to do in the past. I do remember very well we have done this before and I see no harm in doing it yet again. Perhaps I'm wrong? but I have sent an email, waited for 13 days and there was NO reply whatsoever so if someone can't reply with "Yes, I'm here", then IMHO, he/she is really busy/not interested in his/her membership.</div>
<div>No one said: "Do not do this, this is wrong" for 13 days :) I was 99.9% sure I will read this Q 'after' I remove inactive members of the sub-teams :)</div><div><br></div><div>Being heavily involved with Lubuntu for the last two years, I guess I know those who are active and contributing to the community and those who are now. I have accepted their request to join myself in most of the time (Phill was accepting the requests too when I'm offline). I have talked to 99% of them. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Removing someone from a sub-team will NOT affect anything but one thing: He/She will not be able to receive a direct email from the sub-team mailing list.</div><div><br></div><div>We are not pushing people away, we are 'organizing' the sub-teams the way it should be. These are moderated teams :)</div>
<div><br></div><div>This is a general mailing list of Lubuntu where almost every user of Lubuntu is subscribed to. Almost everything is being discussed here.</div><div>The Sub-Teams, IMHO, for those who are REALLY serious and willing to change the world. It is not a place for just sending a request and being accepted and that is all.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I hope this is clear to everyone now why I have done so which is not new process anyway :)</div><div><br></div><div>Finally, before asking and wondering, I would strongly recommend for ANYONE and EVERYONE over here to read this:</div>
<div><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams</a></div><div><br></div><div><ul style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Ubuntu Beta',UbuntuBeta,Ubuntu,'Bitstream Vera Sans','DejaVu Sans',Tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:15px;line-height:19px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<li style="margin-bottom:10px">Group of people willing to help on a specific area.<span class="anchor" id="line-4"></span></li><li style="margin-bottom:10px"><b>Need to be active : It's essential that people of the team are active. It's not necessary to be active on a daily base, but a minimal participation is necessary, so we don't have "ghost members" in the teams. It's better to leave the team temporary if we don't have time on the short-term, and enter it again after.</b><span class="anchor" id="line-5"></span></li>
<li style="margin-bottom:10px">Participation can be done by members outside the team: of course, other people can help the team, without the need to be part of the team. For example, you can contribute on some wiki pages without to be part of the team. But, if you want to do more, it's better to enter the team, so you can coordinate with other members.<span class="anchor" id="line-6"></span></li>
<li style="margin-bottom:10px">Free to organize themselves : you can use the wiki, or a specific mailing list, delegate responsibility on 1 member for a specific area or not, nominate a member who will speak at the weekly meeting or not ...<span class="anchor" id="line-7"></span></li>
<li style="margin-bottom:10px">Report to the weekly meeting : Each week, every team should do a report to the other members of the team, share important topics, summit important proposal. They can also report that there is nothing to report.</li>
</ul></div><div><br></div><div>Above are the goals and guidelines of the sub-teams :)</div><div><br></div><div>Hope this is fair enough ;)</div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Jared Norris <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jrnorris@gmail.com" target="_blank">jrnorris@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div class="h5">On 9 February 2013 19:35, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:amjjawad@gmail.com" target="_blank">amjjawad@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr">Dear all,<br><br>I have sent an email on 27th of Jan, 2013 (13 days ago) for each member of:<br>
<br>1) <a href="https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-wiki-docs" target="_blank">https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-wiki-docs</a><br>
<br>2) <a href="https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-comms" target="_blank">https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-comms</a><br>
<br>3) <a href="https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-support" target="_blank">https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-support</a><br><br>The email had this subject: "Team Members Activity" .<br>Then, I have re-sent another email yesterday as a last reminder.<br>
<br>Long story short, I have <i>removed </i>the<u> 'inactive members' who did NOT reply my email for 13 days.</u><div><br></div><div><b>As always, whenever you feel ready to contribute, please feel free to re-join and you are more than welcome</b>.</div>
<div>All your contributions were and still very much appreciated. I'd like to thank you personally for all what you have done and I'm sure you understand the sub-teams must remain active and communications between the members of each team is very important.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Thank you!<span><font color="#888888"><div><br><div>-- <br><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"></span><b style="color:rgb(0,0,153)">Best Regards,<br>amjjawad</b><br>
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<br></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div>I personally haven't been affected by any of this but it seems odd to me anyone would try to make it more difficult to join in. Just because someone isn't active now doesn't mean they won't be able to contribute at a later date. I'm more than happy for you guys to do as you please but I'm a bit perplexed by purposefully removing those who sign up to something of their own accord.</div>
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