Hi folks,<div><br></div><div>well, it does seem we have a small core of people wanting to use LTSP with lubuntu. If I could make a couple of suggestions?</div><div><br></div><div>We have a group that are advocates of PPC (the older Macs), for chasing problems they use the lubuntu-quality area[1, 2] and that mailing list for discussions. You good people are more than welcome to avail yourself of that area. They prefix a subject title with PPC so that everyone knows what an email is about (It is a low volume email account). I'd suggest making use of it and using LTSP as your prefix. </div>
<div><br></div><div>There are some excellent resources and people really keen at the other *buntu groups [3] specifically the Edubuntu guys. even though they do not 'run' lubuntu, they do have a good working knowledge of LTSP's and I'm sure would be delighted to hear from you. </div>
<div><br></div><div>If you'd like me to create a lubuntu LTSP wiki page along the lines of what we have for PPC, please simply ask :)</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Phill.</div><div><br></div>
<div>1. <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing</a></div><div>2. <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing/PPC%26Mac64">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing/PPC%26Mac64</a></div>
<div>3. <a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP#Other_Useful_Resources">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP#Other_Useful_Resources</a><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 8 December 2012 21:17, John Hupp <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lubuntu@prpcompany.com" target="_blank">lubuntu@prpcompany.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<font size="-1"><font face="Arial">It was a slow-dawning realization
for me as I continued to research this, but I too was concluding
that I needed various xserver-xorg-video-* packages. However,
checking just now, I find that I already have the meta-package
installed (xserver-xorg-video-all) that installs their whole
suite.<br>
<br>
I see that the binary drivers fglrx and fglrx-updates are
available but not installed. So perhaps those are an option
here, though I may have read somewhere that there may be some
complications uninstalling those if they don't provide a
solution.<br>
<br>
I'm now wondering how I can troubleshoot what xorg is doing. On
the server, I have /var/log/Xorg.0.log to look at, for instance,
and though I don't know how to read that very well, I can tell
that it selects a certain set of drivers to try to load, and
provides various kinds of information about how they loaded (or
didn't) and with what settings. But in this case with LTSP
clients, though I have syslog messages being forwarded from the
clients to the server, that does not include the xorg log
messages, right? If that's so, then perhaps I would want to ssh
in to /var/log/Xorg.0.log on the client, but my current
recollection is that ssh to the client fails when I get these
stalled startups. I think I need to double-check that.<br>
<br>
Can I force usage of a certain driver? I read that this was
supported with xorg.conf, but that does not exist by default
now, and I think Xorg uses an automated configuration system
called KMS, about which I know next to nothing. But perhaps a
configuration via xorg.conf is still respected/supported?<br>
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<br>
In any case, as a result of running the lspci and lshw commands
with several setups, I now have a better identification of a few
of the hardware items:<div class="im"><br>
<br>
Worked:<br>
- PCI Matrox Millennium II MGA 2164W (PCI card)<br>
- Intel 82810E (integrated)<br></div>
- ATI RV200 QW [Radeon 7500]<br>
- ATI Rage 128 Pro AGP<br>
- ATI Rage 128 RF/SG AGP<div class="im"><br>
- HP VectaVL PC w/ integrated video, probably either:<br>
Matrox G250 2X AGP<br>
Matrox Millennium G400 4X AGP<br>
<br>
Partially Worked (got past the blank, black screen but then
failed somehow):<br>
- Diamond STL III S540 XTRM32M 82 (AGP card)<br></div>
- Diamond Speedstar A50 with SiS 6326AGP chip (AGP card)<div class="im"><br>
<br>
Failed:<br>
- Trident 3DImage 9850 (AGP card)<br></div><div class="im">
- S3 Trio64V+ (PCI card)<br></div><div class="im">
- Diamond Viper with Power Weitek 9000/9001 and Oak Technology
T9351 chips (PCI card)<br></div>
- ATI 210888GX [Mach64 GX] (PCI card)<br>
- ATI 3D Rage Pro AGP 1x/2x<font size="-1"><font size="-1"><font size="-1"><font size="-1"><font face="Arial"><font size="-1"><font size="-1"><font size="-1"><font size="-1"><font face="Arial"><font size="-1"><font size="-1"><font size="-1"><font size="-1"><font size="-1"><font size="-1"><font size="-1"><font size="-1"><font size="-1"><font size="-1"><font size="-1"><font size="-1"><font size="-1"><font size="-1"><font size="-1"><font size="-1"><font size="-1"><font size="-1"><br>
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<div>On 12/8/2012 2:41 PM, Ioannis Vranos
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">
<pre>On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 7:17 PM, John Hupp <a href="mailto:lubuntu@prpcompany.com" target="_blank"><lubuntu@prpcompany.com></a> wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre>Thanks for having a look at this.
<a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto" target="_blank">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto</a>
I didn't detail this fact in this thread, but for the cards that stall at a
blank, black screen during a normal boot, I can configure LTSP to just boot
to a shell (successfully) rather than to trying to load ldm, which results
in the stalled boot. From the sell I can use the commands mentioned in the
article:
lspci | grep VGA
sudo lshw -C video
I can get Lubuntu's identification of the current card and find out if it is
supposed to be supported (from the next link).
<a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards</a>
Although who knows if that supported-cards info will be current. I thought
I read somewhere about some distros that newer libraries were causing more
regressions for older video hardware.
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre>Had you a look at the xserver-xorg-video packages? For examples, see below.
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre>Worked:
- PCI Matrox Millennium II MGA 2164W (PCI card)
- Intel 82810E (integrated)
- An ATI-based AGP card sold as a MIC E-G012-02-1214(B)
- ATI Rage 128 Pro (AGP card)
- ATI Rage 128 (AGP card)
- HP VectaVL PC w/ integrated video, probably either:
Matrox G250 2X AGP
Matrox Millennium G400 4X AGP
Partially Worked (got past the blank, black screen but then failed somehow):
- Diamond STL III S540 XTRM32M 82 (AGP card)
- Diamond Spdstr A50 with SiS 6326AGP chip (AGP card)
Failed:
- Trident 3DImage 9850 (AGP card)
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre>Have you installed the xserver-xorg-video-trident package?
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre>- S3 Trio64V+ (PCI card)
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre>Have you installed xserver-xorg-video-s3 for this? And so on.
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre>- Diamond Viper with Power Weitek 9000/9001 and Oak Technology T9351 chips
(PCI card)
- ATI Mach64 (PCI card)
- eMachines eTower 500i w/ integrated video, probably:
ATI Rage Pro Turbo 2X AGP
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</blockquote>
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